[Reader-list] Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 14:03:27 IST 2009 

No murali, i would not like to specify any of that. i dont think i have the
right to do so, as many of these decisions were taken collectively.
Therefore, i have used quotes for the word imposition.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you specify where and what code?
>
> Regards,
> V Murali
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, anupam chakravartty<c.anupam at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Moreover, in garb of Hindu culture dress code is similaly "imposed" in
> > several colleges and institutions. What do you have to say about that?
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Rashneek,
> >> Wearing a hijab should not ideally be your problem. Let the people speak
> >> for themselves.
> >> -anupam
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:36 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Havent the barbarians already been there..like Bitta karate who pissed
> on
> >>> people after he killed them.and those too who some fondly called Sahab
> who
> >>> rape and chop nurses.
> >>> and then their  apologists .....
> >>>
> >>> rashneek
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Wonder why this list feels like a starter's block sometimes, for a
> race
> >>> > where everybody is planning to run a different length. You know, the
> >>> 100m
> >>> > sprint, the 400m, the 5000m, the marathon...
> >>> > I mean look at us, here we are, already invoking fears of the
> >>> "barbarians"
> >>> > at the gate, of "mediveal obscrutanist religiou practices - soon
> >>> flogging,
> >>> > killing in football grounds and burning of girls schools"...
> >>> >
> >>> > While the particular Indian Express story, in a style we have all
> come
> >>> to
> >>> > recognise, having raised the alarm, attracted the attention of those
> >>> > amongst
> >>> > us whose nerves are on edge anyway, and triggered the sprinters, does
> a
> >>> > consummate exercise in what I believe the Americans call 'covering
> ass'.
> >>> > I quote the last paragraph of the story:
> >>> > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
> angles,
> >>> > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
> >>> > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want
> to
> >>> be
> >>> > named. No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the
> incident.
> >>> The
> >>> > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain
> if
> >>> > militant groups were involved.
> >>> >
> >>> > Can we hold our horses, or have they bolted from the starters block?
> >>> > Best
> >>> > Sanjay Kak
> >>> >
> >>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> > From: rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> >>> > Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing:
> >>> > ‘enforce hijab in college’
> >>> >  To: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >>> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Dear Anupam,
> >>> >
> >>> > Well I am not confusing anything with anything.There is a history on
> >>> this
> >>> > network where people have called barbarians like Sikander Butshikan
> and
> >>> > Syed
> >>> > mohd.Hamdani divinely ordained dervishes and incidentally these are
> >>> people
> >>> > who claim to have Marxist if not Moaist ideologies.
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> > Rashneek
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> >>> c.anupam at gmail.com
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Dear Rashneek,
> >>> > > "They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
> inhabitants
> >>> and
> >>> > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes
> oops
> >>> > > divinely ordained dervishes."
> >>> > >
> >>> > > I think you are confusing Talibanisation with Marxism and Maoism.
> If
> >>> the
> >>> > > so-called "armed" gunmen threatened the college principal, as the
> >>> reports
> >>> > > stated, to which he opposed and said:  "he would not be cowed by
> the
> >>> > threat
> >>> > > and would continue to do his work at the college" and also the fact
> he
> >>> is
> >>> > a
> >>> > > specialist in greatest Islamic revivalist of our times, Sayyid Qutb
> >>> (who
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > neo-liberal sorts think that because of his criticism of the
> American
> >>> way
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > life has helped in shaping of al-qaeda) then there is an inherent
> >>> > > contradiction in your claims about dervishes. here we have someone
> who
> >>> is
> >>> > > specialist, who is opposed to imposition of hijab. i think i would
> >>> > > appreciate the principal's stand.
> >>> > > - thanks
> >>> > > anupam
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com
> >
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > Dear All,
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > A story done by Indian Express on the Islamist Icons(Robin Hoods
> of
> >>> our
> >>> > > > friends) imposing Hijab and threating Prinicipals of Colleges by
> >>> > burning
> >>> > > > their cars.
> >>> > > > How I wonder would Taliban control the land that once infidelds
> >>> lived
> >>> > > > in.They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
> >>> inhabitants
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes
> oops
> >>> > > > divinely ordained dervishes.Their divine powers derived from
> >>> mediveal
> >>> > > > obscrutanist religiou practices-soon flogging,killing in football
> >>> > grounds
> >>> > > > and burning of girls schools would be the order of day.And our
> >>> Marxist
> >>> > > > demi-icons would sing paeans to the piety of the new age
> dervishes.
> >>> > > > It may also be worthwhile to mention that the leaders of the
> "azadi"
> >>> > > today
> >>> > > > have done exactly this when they "were a part of the armed
> >>> > struggle".For
> >>> > > > the
> >>> > > > proponents of jihad and their supporters...from Riyaz Wani
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > > >  In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in
> >>> college’
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >  In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of
> >>> > militancy
> >>> > > > started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a
> >>> North
> >>> > > > Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day
> >>> ultimatum
> >>> > to
> >>> > > > ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing
> the
> >>> > > hijab.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >  The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar,
> told
> >>> The
> >>> > > > Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and
> >>> would
> >>> > > > continue to do his work at the college.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >  Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding
> with
> >>> > his
> >>> > > > son
> >>> > > > and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and
> >>> > > commandeered
> >>> > > > the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They
> wore
> >>> > masks
> >>> > > > and
> >>> > > > dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols
> and
> >>> > > > grenades,” Ashraf said.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >  According to the principal, the men appeared to know a lot about
> >>> him:
> >>> > > that
> >>> > > > he was a specialist on Sayyid Qutb — the Egyptian Islamist
> political
> >>> > > > theorist and leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood in
> the
> >>> 50s
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > > 60s who is thought to be one of the philosophical progenitors of
> Al
> >>> > Qaeda
> >>> > > —
> >>> > > > and that he had been trying to enforce discipline in his college.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > “You have taken some really good steps in the college like
> banning
> >>> > > smoking
> >>> > > > and cellphones. Now, you must do something that we want you to
> do.
> >>> > > Enforce
> >>> > > > an Islamic dress code for girl students,” Ashraf said the men
> told
> >>> him.
> >>> > > > They
> >>> > > > gave him three days to carry out their diktat, failing which they
> >>> would
> >>> > > > “act”, they said.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Ashraf’s college, Degree College, Sopore, has around 7,000
> students
> >>> on
> >>> > > its
> >>> > > > rolls, 3,000 of whom are girls. It is among the largest colleges
> in
> >>> the
> >>> > > > state.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > “They told me that they had picked me to send a message to all
> other
> >>> > > > schools
> >>> > > > and colleges in the Valley in which girls study,” Ashraf said.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Perhaps to rattle the principal and send the message that they
> meant
> >>> > > > business, the gunmen set his vehicle on fire. Ashraf and his
> >>> companions
> >>> > > > were
> >>> > > > released after about two hours in captivity.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
> >>> angles,
> >>> > > > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the
> possible
> >>> > > > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not
> >>> want
> >>> > to
> >>> > > be
> >>> > > > named.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
> The
> >>> > > > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to
> >>> ascertain
> >>> > if
> >>> > > > militant groups were involved.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Senior Superintendent of Police Viplav Kumar said a hunt was on
> for
> >>> the
> >>> > > > gunmen. “We are trying our best. Hopefully, we will crack the
> case
> >>> > soon,”
> >>> > > > he
> >>> > > > said.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-valley-gunmen-take-to-moral-policing-enforce-hijab-in-college/507208/0
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > best
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > --
> >>> > > > Rashneek Kher
> >>> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> >>> > > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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> >>> --
> >>> Rashneek Kher
> >>> http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> >>> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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