[Reader-list] Fwd: In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in college’

rashneek kher rashneek at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 14:29:54 IST 2009 

Dear Anupam,

Since you have asked for my opinion on imposition of dress codes I must say
not just dress codes but any impositions on human freedom are deplorable
irrespective of who imposes them.It is no body's business to tell anyone how
to eat,live or whether to keep pubes or moustache or not.

Thanks

Rashneek

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Moreover, in garb of Hindu culture dress code is similaly "imposed" in
> several colleges and institutions. What do you have to say about that?
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Dear Rashneek,
> > Wearing a hijab should not ideally be your problem. Let the people speak
> > for themselves.
> > -anupam
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:36 PM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Havent the barbarians already been there..like Bitta karate who pissed
> on
> >> people after he killed them.and those too who some fondly called Sahab
> who
> >> rape and chop nurses.
> >> and then their  apologists .....
> >>
> >> rashneek
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Wonder why this list feels like a starter's block sometimes, for a
> race
> >> > where everybody is planning to run a different length. You know, the
> >> 100m
> >> > sprint, the 400m, the 5000m, the marathon...
> >> > I mean look at us, here we are, already invoking fears of the
> >> "barbarians"
> >> > at the gate, of "mediveal obscrutanist religiou practices - soon
> >> flogging,
> >> > killing in football grounds and burning of girls schools"...
> >> >
> >> > While the particular Indian Express story, in a style we have all come
> >> to
> >> > recognise, having raised the alarm, attracted the attention of those
> >> > amongst
> >> > us whose nerves are on edge anyway, and triggered the sprinters, does
> a
> >> > consummate exercise in what I believe the Americans call 'covering
> ass'.
> >> > I quote the last paragraph of the story:
> >> > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
> angles,
> >> > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the possible
> >> > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not want
> to
> >> be
> >> > named. No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
> >> The
> >> > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to ascertain
> if
> >> > militant groups were involved.
> >> >
> >> > Can we hold our horses, or have they bolted from the starters block?
> >> > Best
> >> > Sanjay Kak
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> >> > Date: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing:
> >> > ‘enforce hijab in college’
> >> >  To: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: sarai list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear Anupam,
> >> >
> >> > Well I am not confusing anything with anything.There is a history on
> >> this
> >> > network where people have called barbarians like Sikander Butshikan
> and
> >> > Syed
> >> > mohd.Hamdani divinely ordained dervishes and incidentally these are
> >> people
> >> > who claim to have Marxist if not Moaist ideologies.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Rashneek
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> >> c.anupam at gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dear Rashneek,
> >> > > "They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
> inhabitants
> >> and
> >> > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes oops
> >> > > divinely ordained dervishes."
> >> > >
> >> > > I think you are confusing Talibanisation with Marxism and Maoism. If
> >> the
> >> > > so-called "armed" gunmen threatened the college principal, as the
> >> reports
> >> > > stated, to which he opposed and said:  "he would not be cowed by the
> >> > threat
> >> > > and would continue to do his work at the college" and also the fact
> he
> >> is
> >> > a
> >> > > specialist in greatest Islamic revivalist of our times, Sayyid Qutb
> >> (who
> >> > > the
> >> > > neo-liberal sorts think that because of his criticism of the
> American
> >> way
> >> > > of
> >> > > life has helped in shaping of al-qaeda) then there is an inherent
> >> > > contradiction in your claims about dervishes. here we have someone
> who
> >> is
> >> > > specialist, who is opposed to imposition of hijab. i think i would
> >> > > appreciate the principal's stand.
> >> > > - thanks
> >> > > anupam
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, rashneek kher <rashneek at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Dear All,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > A story done by Indian Express on the Islamist Icons(Robin Hoods
> of
> >> our
> >> > > > friends) imposing Hijab and threating Prinicipals of Colleges by
> >> > burning
> >> > > > their cars.
> >> > > > How I wonder would Taliban control the land that once infidelds
> >> lived
> >> > > > in.They would cleanse the society by imposing purity on the
> >> inhabitants
> >> > > and
> >> > > > the sly shadows of Mao would cheer them and call them dervishes
> oops
> >> > > > divinely ordained dervishes.Their divine powers derived from
> >> mediveal
> >> > > > obscrutanist religiou practices-soon flogging,killing in football
> >> > grounds
> >> > > > and burning of girls schools would be the order of day.And our
> >> Marxist
> >> > > > demi-icons would sing paeans to the piety of the new age
> dervishes.
> >> > > > It may also be worthwhile to mention that the leaders of the
> "azadi"
> >> > > today
> >> > > > have done exactly this when they "were a part of the armed
> >> > struggle".For
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > proponents of jihad and their supporters...from Riyaz Wani
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > >  In Valley, gunmen take to moral policing: ‘enforce hijab in
> >> college’
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  In the first such incident in the Valley since the decline of
> >> > militancy
> >> > > > started two years ago, masked gunmen waylaid the principal of a
> >> North
> >> > > > Kashmir college, destroyed his car, and gave him a three-day
> >> ultimatum
> >> > to
> >> > > > ensure the 3,000 girl students in his institution began wearing
> the
> >> > > hijab.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  The principal, Muhammad Ashraf, a respected Islamic scholar, told
> >> The
> >> > > > Indian Express today that he would not be cowed by the threat and
> >> would
> >> > > > continue to do his work at the college.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  Ashraf said seven men stopped his car — in which he was riding
> with
> >> > his
> >> > > > son
> >> > > > and a local acquaintance — near his village at Dangiwacha, and
> >> > > commandeered
> >> > > > the vehicle over a dirt track into a thicket of bushes. “They wore
> >> > masks
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > dark glasses and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs, pistols and
> >> > > > grenades,” Ashraf said.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >  According to the principal, the men appeared to know a lot about
> >> him:
> >> > > that
> >> > > > he was a specialist on Sayyid Qutb — the Egyptian Islamist
> political
> >> > > > theorist and leading intellectual of the Muslim Brotherhood in the
> >> 50s
> >> > > and
> >> > > > 60s who is thought to be one of the philosophical progenitors of
> Al
> >> > Qaeda
> >> > > —
> >> > > > and that he had been trying to enforce discipline in his college.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > “You have taken some really good steps in the college like banning
> >> > > smoking
> >> > > > and cellphones. Now, you must do something that we want you to do.
> >> > > Enforce
> >> > > > an Islamic dress code for girl students,” Ashraf said the men told
> >> him.
> >> > > > They
> >> > > > gave him three days to carry out their diktat, failing which they
> >> would
> >> > > > “act”, they said.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ashraf’s college, Degree College, Sopore, has around 7,000
> students
> >> on
> >> > > its
> >> > > > rolls, 3,000 of whom are girls. It is among the largest colleges
> in
> >> the
> >> > > > state.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > “They told me that they had picked me to send a message to all
> other
> >> > > > schools
> >> > > > and colleges in the Valley in which girls study,” Ashraf said.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Perhaps to rattle the principal and send the message that they
> meant
> >> > > > business, the gunmen set his vehicle on fire. Ashraf and his
> >> companions
> >> > > > were
> >> > > > released after about two hours in captivity.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The Dangiwacha police have filed a case, and are looking at all
> >> angles,
> >> > > > including one unrelated to militancy. “We are exploring the
> possible
> >> > > > dimension of college rivalry,” said a senior officer who did not
> >> want
> >> > to
> >> > > be
> >> > > > named.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > No militant outfit has claimed responsibility for the incident.
> The
> >> > > > separatists too have been silent, and are perhaps trying to
> >> ascertain
> >> > if
> >> > > > militant groups were involved.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Senior Superintendent of Police Viplav Kumar said a hunt was on
> for
> >> the
> >> > > > gunmen. “We are trying our best. Hopefully, we will crack the case
> >> > soon,”
> >> > > > he
> >> > > > said.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/in-valley-gunmen-take-to-moral-policing-enforce-hijab-in-college/507208/0
> >> > > >
> >> > > > best
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Rashneek Kher
> >> > > > http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> >> > > > http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
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> >> --
> >> Rashneek Kher
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