[Reader-list] Myths, Mangoes and ordered houses - re: 10 myths about pakistan

[Kshmendra Kaul]

Dear Yasir
 
Having aligned Pakistan with USA in the 'war against terror', Musharraf could ill-afford the publicly blatant calls for raising money for "Jihad" that were rampant all over Pakistan. "Jihad" and "Jihadist" could not be allowed to be the public face of Pakistan. They had to be managed/controlled for effective use.
 
It would be ridiculous to suggest that the 2002 'ban' seriously dented or completely sent 'underground' the raising of money for Jihad. Igf nothing else Mosques with "Jihadi pulpits" and Madrassas with "Jihadi agendas" (including the 'donation boxes' on their premises) have automatically been fund raising places for "Jihad"  
 
As some have commentated, Musharraf and 'establishment' (read ISI) sought to bring about a distinction between "Good Jihadis" (those who were to wage Jihad against India) and the "Bad Jihadis" (who want Talibisation of Pakistan). Then there are also the "we dont really know how to deal with them Jihadis" who are sworn enemies of USA and India but could live with a Non-Talibanised Pakistan. In my opinion, this category forms the largest group and also reflects the thinking of the majority of Pakistanis. 
 
Squeeze on the (never can be eliminated) funding of the "Bad Jihadis" did not stop the Pakistani Establishment from turning a convienient blind eye to the raising of funds by the "Good Jihadis" or their operating quite openly all over Pakistan. They did so not with impunity but with the blessings of the Pakistani Establishment.
 
Your statement "cleaned-up in 2002 ..... anything since then is underground and not
tolerated" is a non-fact. 
 
A few reports. All post 2002:
 
1.  http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GC11Df07.html 
In "The jihad lives on" (March 2005), Amir Mir writes:

"The Lashkar leadership describes Hindus and Jews as the main enemies of Islam, claiming India and Israel to be the main enemies of Pakistan. The donation boxes of the Lashkar and the Dawa, which had initially disappeared after the January 2002 ban, have reappeared in public places, as well as mosques all over Punjab." 
 
 
" While banning six leading jihadi and sectarian groups in two phases - on January 12, 2002, and November 15, 2003 - Musharraf had declared that no organization or person would be allowed to indulge in terrorism to further its cause. However, after the initial crackdown, the four major jihadi outfits operating from Pakistan - Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM), Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM) and Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM), resurfaced and regrouped effectively to run their respective networks as openly as before, though under different names."
 
"Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, Maulana Masood Azhar, Maulana Fazalur Rehman Khalil and Syed Salahuddin - the respective leaders of these organizations - are again on the loose. The pattern of treatment being meted out to these leading lights of jihad by the Musharraf-led administration shows that they are being kept on the leash, ostensibly to wage a controlled jihad in Jammu & Kashmir (J&K)."
2. http://www.dawn.com/2003/02/06/nat34.htm
In the report "Jihad only solution to occupation" (Feb 2003):

"Despite official ban the JI and Hizbul Mujahideen had set up donation camp at Khyber Bazaar and distributed pamphlets, carrying Jihadi messages."
3. http://www.dawn.com/2006/11/06/top7.htm
Some relevant extracts from this report (Nov 2006):

"A Shura (council) of militant groups in the North and South Waziristan ......appoint a committee to collect donations to finance Mujahideen’s activities."
 
" “Nobody will be allowed to collect donations and the amount collected as donation will be utilised for bearing expenses of the activities of Mujahideen,” according to one pamphlet."
4. http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/14/top9.htm
Not much is left to imagination in the slogan quoted in this Dec 2008 report on the collection of the hides of animals sacrificed at the time of Eid ul Adha:

" “QURBANI ki khalain un ke liye ... gin ka lahu Islam ke liye” (Hides of sacrificial animals for those who dedicate/shed their blood for Islam). So says a bold inscription on a big plastic bag meant for stuffing and carrying such hides."
 
Kshmendra
 

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:

From: yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Myths, Mangoes and ordered houses - re: 10 myths about pakistan
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 3:00 PM

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:45 AM, Rahul Asthana
<rahul_capri at yahoo.com>wrote:

> There are/were jihadi donation boxes in all the major cities of Pakistan.

Those, along with wall chalkings for 'jihadi camp training' were
cleaned up
by Musharraf in around 2002. so anything since then is underground and not
tolerated.
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