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Sat Jul 11 14:09:33 IST 2009

*TO COUNTER THIS BABA MENACE:*

DRUGS AND MAGIC REMEDIES (OBJECTIONABLE ADVERTISEMENTS) ACT 1954
THE DRUGS AND MAGIC REMEDIES (OBJECTIONABLE ADVERTISEMENTS) ACT, 1954

ACT NO. 21 OF 1954 1*

[30th April, 1954.]
An Act to control the advertisement of drugs in certain cases, to prohibit
the advertisement for certain purposes of remedies alleged to possess magic
qualities and to provide for matters connected therewith. BE it enacted by
Parliament as follows:-

Short title, extent and commencement.

1. (1)Short title, extent and commencement. This Act may be called the Drugs
and Magic Remedies (Objectionable Advertisements) Act, 1954.

(2)It extends to the whole of India except the State of Jammu and Kashmir,
and applies also to persons domiciled in the territories to which this Act
extends who are outside the said territories. (3.)It shall come into force
on such date2* as the Central Government may. by notification in the
Official Gazette, appoint.

Definitions. 2.Definitions. In this Act, unless the context otherwise
requires,- (a) " advertisement " includes any notice, circular, label,
wrapper, or other document, and any announcement made orally or by any means
of producing or transmitting light, sound or smoke; (b) drug " includes- (i)
a medicine for the internal or external use of human beings or animals ;
(ii) any substance intended to be used for or in the diagnosis, cure,
mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease in human beings or animals;
(iii)any article, other than food, intended to affect or influence in any
way the structure or any organic function of the body of human beings or
animals; (iv)any article intended for use as a component of any medicine,
substance or article, referred to in subclauses (i), (ii) and (iii)
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Act has been extended to Pondicherry by Reg. 7 of 1963, S. 3 and Sch. I
(w.e.f. 1-10-1963).** 2 1st April 1955, vide Notification No. S. R. O. 511,
dated 26th February, 1955, Gazette of India, 1955, Pt. II, Sec. 3, p. 449.
** Extend to and brought into force in Dadra and Nagar Heveli (w.e.f.
1.7.65) by Ref. 6 of 1963, s.2 Sch. I.
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(c) " magic remedy " includes a talisman, mantra, kavacha, and any other
charm of any kind which is alleged to possess miraculous powers for or in
the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of any disease in
human beings or animals or for affecting or influencing in any way the
structure or any organic function of the body of human beings or animals ;
1*[(cc) "registered medical practitioner" means any person,- (i)who holds a
qualification granted by an authority specified in, or notified under,
section 3 of the Indian Medical Degrees Act, 1916 (7 of 1916) or specified
in the Schedules to the Indian Medical Council Act, 1956 (102 of 1956) ; or
(ii)who is entitled to be registered as a medical practitioner under any law
for the time being in force in any State to which this Act extends relating
to the registration of medical practitioners ;] (d) taking any part in the
publication of any advertisement includes- (i) the printing of the
advertisement, (ii)the publication of any advertisement outside the
territories to which this Act extends by or at the instance of a person
residing within the said territories; 2* * * * * * *

Prohibition of advertisement of certain drugs for treatment of
certaindiseases and disorders. 3.Prohibition of advertisement of certain
drugs for treatment of certain diseases and disorders. Subject to the
provisions of this Act, no person shall take any part in the publication of
any advertisement referring to any drug in terms which suggest or are
calculated to lead to the use of that drug for- (a) the procurement of
miscarriage in women or prevention of conception in women; or (b) the
maintenance or improvement of the capacity of human beings for sexual
pleasure ; or (c) the correction of menstrual disorder in women ; or 3*[(d)
the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of any disease,
disorder or condition specified in the Schedule, or any other disease,
disorder or condition (by whatsoever name called) which may be specified in
the rules made under this Act:
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Ins. by Act 42 of 1963, s. 2. 2 Cl. (e) omitted by s. 2, ibid. 3 Subs. by s.
3, ibid., for cl. (d).
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Provided that no such rule shall be made except- (i)in respect of any
disease, disorder or condition which requires timely treatment in
consultation with a registered medical practitioner or for which there are
normally no accepted remedies, and (ii)after consultation with the Drugs
Technical Advisory Board constituted under the Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940
(23 of 1940) and, if the Central Government considers necessary, with such
other persons having special knowledge or practical experience in respect of
Ayurvedic or Unani systems of medicines as that Govern- ment deems fit.]

Prohibition of misleading advertisements relating to drugs. 4.Prohibition of
misleading advertisements relating to drugs. Subject to the provisions of
this Act, no person shall take any part in the publication of any
advertisement relating to a drug if the advertisement contains any matter
which- (a) directly or indirectly gives a false impression regarding the
true character of the drug; or (b) makes a false claim for the drug;or (c)
is otherwise false or misleading inany material particular. 5 Prohibition of
advertisement of magic remedies for treatment ofcertain diseases and
disorders. 5.Prohibition of advertisement of magic remedies for treatment of
certain diseases and disorders. No person carrying on or purporting to carry
on the profession of administering magic remedies shall take any part in the
publication of any advertisement referring to any magic remedy which
directly or indirectly claims to be efficacious for any of the purposes
specified in section 3. 6 Prohibition of import into, and export from India
of certainadvertisements. 6.Prohibition of import into, and export from
India of certain advertisements. No person shall import into, or export
from, the territories to which this Act extends any document containing an
advertisement of the nature referred to in section 3, or section 4, or
section 5, and any documents containing any such advertisements shall be
deemed to be goods of which the import or export has been prohibited under
section 19 of the Sea Customs Act, 1878 (8 of 1878) and all -the provisions
of that Act shall have effect accordingly, except that section 183 thereof
shall have effect as if for the word " shall " therein the word " may " were
substituted.

Penalty. 7.Penalty. Whoever contravenes any of the provisions of this Act
1*[or the rules made thereunder] shall, on conviction, be punishable-
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Ins. by Act 42 of 1963, s. 4.
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(a) in the case of a first conviction, with imprisonment which may extend to
six months, or with fine, or with both; (b) in the case of a subsequent
conviction, with imprisonment which may extend to one year, or with fine, or
with both.

Powers of entry, search, etc.

1*[8. (1)Powers of entry, search, etc. Subject to the provisions of any
rules made in this behalf, any Gazetted Officer authorised by the State
Government may, within the local limits of the area for which he is so
authorised,- (a) enter and search at all reasonable times, with such
assistants, if any, as he considers necessary, any place in which he has
reason to believe that an offence under this Act has been or is being
committed ; (b) seize any advertisement which he has reason to believe
contravenes any of the provisions of this Act: Provided that the power of
seizure under this clause may be exercised in respect of any document,
article or thing which contains any such advertisement, including the
contents, if any, of such document, article or thing, if the advertisement
cannot be separated by reason of its being embossed or otherwise, from such
document, article or thing without affecting the integrity, utility or
saleable value thereof ; (c) examine any record, register, document or any
other material object found in any place mentioned in clause (a) and seize
the same if he has reason to believe that it may furnish evidence of the
commission of an offence punishable under this Act.

(2) The provisions of the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1898 (5 of 1898),
shall, so far as may be, apply to any search or seizure under this Act as
they apply to any search or seizure made under the authority of a warrant
issued under section 98 of the said Code.

(3) Where any person seizes anything under clause (b) or clause

(c) of sub-section (1), he shall, as soon as may be, inform a Magistrate and
take his orders as to the custody thereof.]

Offences by companies.

9. (1)Offences by companies. If the person contravening any of the
provisions of this Act is a company, every person who at the time the
offence was committed, was in charge of, and was responsible to, the company
for the conduct of the business of the company as well as the company shall
be deemed to be guilty of the contravention and shall be liable to be
proceeded against and punished accordingly:
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Subs. by Act 42 of 1963, s. 5, for s. 8.
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Provided that nothing contained in this sub-section shall render any such
person liable to any punishment provided in this Act if he proves that the
offence was committed without his knowledge or that he exercised all due
diligence to prevent the commission of such offence.

(2) Notwithstanding anything contained in sub-section (1) where an offence
under this Act has been committed by a company and it is proved that the
offence was committed with the consent or connivance of, or is attributable
to any neglect on the part of, any director or manager, secretary or other
officer of the company, such director manager, secretary or other officer of
the company shall also be deemed to be guilty of that offence and shall be
liable to be proceeded against and punished accordingly. Explanation.-For
the purposes of this section,- (a) " company " means any body corporate and
includes a firm or other association of individuals, and (b)" director " in
relation to a firm means a partner in the firm. 1*[9A.Offences to be
cognizable. Notwithstanding anything contained in the Code of Criminal
Procedure, 1898, (5 of 1898) an offence punishable under this Act shall be
cognizable.]

Jurisdiction to try offences. 10.Jurisdiction to try offences. No court
inferior to that of a presidency magistrate or a magistrate of the first
class shall try any offence punishable under this Act. 2*[10A.Forfeiture.
Where a person has been convicted by any court for contravening any
provision of this Act or any rule made thereunder, the court may direct that
any document (including all copies thereof), article or thing, in respect of
which the contravention is made, including the contents thereof where such

contents are seized under clause (b) of sub-section (1) of section 8, shall
be forfeited to the Government.]

Officers to be deemed to be public servants. 11.Officers to be deemed to be
public servants. Every person authorised under section 8 shall be deemed to
be a public servant within the meaning of section 21 of the Indian Penal
Code. (45 of 1860).

Indemnity. 12.Indemnity. No suit, prosecution or other legal proceeding
shall lie against any person for anything which is in good faith done or
intended to be done under this Act.
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Ins. by Act 42 of 1963, s. 6. 2 Ins. by s. 7, ibid,
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Other laws not affected. 13.Other laws not affected. The provisions of this
Act are in addition to, and not in derogation of the provisions of any other
law for the time being in force.

Savings. 1*[14.Savings. Nothing in this Act shall apply to- (a) any sign
board or notice displayed by a registered medical practitioner on his
premises indicating that treatment for any disease, disorder or condition
specified in section 3, the Schedule or the rules made under this Act, is
undertaken in those premises ; or (b) any treatise or book dealing with any
of the matters specified in section 3 from a bona fide scientific or social
standpoint ; or (c) any advertisement relating to any drug sent
confidentially in the manner prescribed under section 16 only to a
registered medical practitioner ; or (d) any advertisement relating to a
drug printed or published by the Government ; or (e) any advertisement
relating to a drug printed or published by any person with the previous
sanction of the Government granted prior to the commencement of the Drugs
and Magic Remedies (Objectionable Advertisements) Amendment Act, 1963 (42 of
1963); Provided that the Government may, for reasons to be recorded in
writing, withdraw the sanction after giving the person in opportunity of
showing cause against such withdrawal.] 15 Power to exempt from application
of Act. 15.Power to exempt from application of Act. If in the opinion of the
Central Government public interest requires that the advertisement of any
specified drug or class of drugs 2*[or any specified class of advertisements
relating to drugs] should be permitted, it may, by notification in the
Official Gazette, direct that the provisions of sections 3, 4, 5 and 6 or
any one of such provisions shall not apply or shall apply subject to such
conditions as may be specified in the notification to or in relation to the
advertisement of any such drug or class of drugs 2*[or any such class of
advertisements relating to drugs]. 16 Power to make rules.

16. (1)Power to make rules. The Central Government may, by notification in
the Official Gazette make rules for carrying out the purposes of this Act.
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Subs, by Act 42 of 1963, s. 8, for s. 14. 2 Ins. by s. 9, ibid.
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(2) In particular and without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing
power, such rules may- (a) specify any 1*[disease, disorder or condition] to
which the provisions of section 3 shall apply (b) prescribe the manner in
which advertisements of articles or things referred to in clause (c) of 2*
*** sections 14 may be sent confidentially.

3*[(3) Every rule made under this Act shall be laid as soon as may be after
it is made, before each House of Parliament while it is in session for a
total period of thirty days which may be comprised in one session or in two
or more successive sessions, and if before the expiry of the session in
which it is so laid or the successive sessions aforesaid, both Houses agree
in making any modification in the rule or both Houses agree that the rule
should not be made, the rule shall thereafter have effect only in such
modified form or be of no effect, as the case may be ; so however, that any
such modification or annulment shall be without prejudice to the validity of
anything previously done under that rule.] SCHE

[See sections 3 (d) and 14.]
4*[THE SCHEDULE

[See sections 3 (d) and 14.]
S.. No. Name of the disease, disorder or condition 1. Appendicitis 2.
Arteriosclerosis 3. Blindness 4. Blood poisoning 5. Bright's disease 6.
Cancer 7. Cataract 8. Deafness 9. Diabetes 10. Diseases and disorders of the
brain 11. Diseases and disorders of the optical system
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Subs by Act 42 of 1963, s. 10, for "disease or condition".

2 The words brackets and figure"sub-section (1) of" omitted by s.10, ibid. 3
Ins. by s. 10, ibid. 4 Ins. by s. 11, ibid.
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S. No. Name of the disease, disorder or condition 12. Diseases and disorders
of the uterus 13. Disorders, of menstrual flow 14. Disorders of the nervous
system 15. Disorders of the prostatic gland 16. Dropsy 17. Epilepsy 18.
Female diseases (in general) 19. Fevers (in general) 20. Fits 21. Form and
structure of the female bust 22. Gall stones, kidney stones and bladder
stones 23. Gangrene 24. Glaucoma 25. Goitre 26. Heart diseases 27. High or
low blood pressure 28. Hydrocele 29. Hysteria 30. Infantile paralysis 31.
Insanity 32. Leprosy 33. Leucoderma 34. Lockjaw 35. Locomotor ataxia 36.
Lupus 37. Nervous debility 38. Obesity 39. Paralysis 40. Plague 41. Pleurisy
42. Pneumonia 43. Rheumatism 44. Ruptures 106c S. No. Name of the disease,
disorder or condition 45. Sexual impotence 46. Smallpox 47. Stature of
persons 48. Sterility in women 49. Trachoma 50. Tuberculosis 51. Tumours 52.
Typhoid fever 53. Ulcers of the gastrointestinal tract 54. Venereal
diseases, including syphilis, gonorrhoea, soft chancre, venereal granuloma
and lympho granuloma.]
On 7/11/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From Rationalist International:
>
> Swami Ramdev expects a revenue of 40 million dollar this year. Selling
> India’s ancient, pre-scientific notion of health care and cure – repackaged
> as his very special brand – is good business. Thanks to his all-out
> marketing, Pranayama (ancient exercise in breath control) and ayurveda are
> big hits with the ever-growing and prospering Indian middle class. His daily
> early morning show has allegedly 20 million viewers. His 500 hospitals in
> the country are said to register 30,000 patients per day. His new
> headquarters in the “holy city” of Haridwar may soon be world’s largest
> center for yoga and ayurveda.
>
> Swami Ramdev’s breathing routine as such may be as harmless as useless. But
> it comes with the stunning claim to cure all kinds of illnesses including
> cancer and HIV/Aids. His brand of yoga, so runs his pseudo medical argument,
> increases the CD4 count – the number of cells attacking the HIV virus. Such
> baseless and irresponsible claims, luring a vast number of patients in need
> of medical treatment into a false sense of security, turn Swami Ramdev’s
> yoga ministry a disastrous venture.
>
> “Swami Ramdev is a dangerous man”, said Sanal Edamaruku in a press
> statement. ’It is high time that the authorities put a stop to his
> activities. Claiming such absurdities is against the law. The magical
> remedies act of 1954 was brought in to stop people such as Baba Ramdev from
> promoting dangerous ideas about curing cancer and the like. But the
> political class is running scared of him and of the backlash that his legal
> prosecution might unleash."
>
> Quoting Sanal Edamaruku, the following article appeared in *The Guardian*.
>
>
> TV swami offers a cure for all ills
>
> Yoga evangelist has millions in his thrall,
> but critics claim devotees are being duped
>
> Randeep Ramesh
> The Guardian, Saturday June 14 2008
>
> At 5am beneath the Shivalik hills in northern India, Swami Ramdev sits
> cross-legged swaddled in saffron robes commanding the rapt attention of 500
> devotees of his brand of yoga. The crowd is made up mostly of middle-class
> Indians, many suffering from chronic conditions for which traditional
> medicine has little to offer but comfort.
>
> Each "patient" has paid 7,000 to 40,000 rupees (£90 to £500) to be among
> the first to spend a week at the swami's newest venture: a village of 300
> bungalows offering spiritual retreat in the shadow of eucalyptus trees.
> Swami Ramdev's pitch is that pranayama, the ancient Indian art of breath
> control, can cure a bewildering array of diseases. "Asthma, arthritis,
> sickle-cell anaemia, kidney problems, thyroid disease, hepatitis, slipped
> discs and it will unblock any fallopian tubes," he tells his audience in the
> yoga village, who line up to have their blood tested and receive herbal
> remedies.
>
> Although India has a long tradition of mystical gurus, Swami Ramdev
> represents a new phenomenon: the television yoga evangelist. Almost all his
> congregation have been drawn through his shows on India's Aastha channel.
> Every morning, the swami appears on television chanting prayers and
> explaining that ailments, physical and mental, can be treated by what looks
> like little more than sharp intakes of air and painful-looking body
> contortions. More than 20 million tune in each day in India alone. The
> television guru, who is also known as Baba Ramdev, is also available across
> the world - including Britain. He has just finished teaching on a yoga
> cruise from India to China, which even after attracting corporate
> sponsorship still charged disciples £1,000 a ticket. Last year he appeared
> in Westminster to give British politicians a chance to sample his yogic
> wisdom.
>
> Ludy Mantri, a housewife from Mauritius, has paid 40,000 rupees and
> travelled 4,000 miles to see "her swami" in the Haridwar yoga village in the
> hope he can help her find a cure for diabetes.
>
> "I have been on medicines every day for the last 12 years. The chanting of
> Om has an amazing effect and the words of Ramdev energise one through the
> day."
>
> Born into a farming family in north India he retains a common touch, making
> rustic jokes in chaste Hindi. The guru combines this with a gentle manner
> and a knack for public relations. The swami sells himself as a one-person
> health service. He says he only charges the wealthy and that the poor get
> his medicines for free. He has 500 hospitals in India serving more than
> 30,000 a day.
>
> It is no surprise that many sections of the Indian elite - including
> judges, ministers and Bollywood stars - have visited his camps. Such is his
> popularity that the Indian army incorporated Ramdev's techniques claiming it
> made for a "deadlier fighting force".
>
> Ramdev often speaks less of spiritualism and more of the need to develop
> his country through yoga, portraying himself as an Indian nationalist. He
> attacks multinational companies for seeking to drain India of profits. He
> calls Coke and Pepsi good only for "toilet cleaning".
>
> In a country where renunciation is seen as almost a divine virtue, Ramdev
> announces that he has long ago given up sex - because "it is not love". The
> adoration he inspires was seen in 2006 when Indian communists accused the
> guru of using human bones and animal parts in ayurvedic drugs produced by
> his pharmacy. His followers rioted and attacked the party headquarters. The
> Communist party backed down when it saw where public sympathy lay.In an
> interview with the Guardian, Ramdev said that the problem with communists
> was that they did not have "faith in spirituality and are philosophically
> against religion. My cures are clean but the communists have an agenda."
>
> There is little controversy about his basic assertions. He says that
> following his yoga teachings for 30 minutes a day, along with a vegetarian
> diet of raw or lightly boiled food and no alcohol or tobacco, clears clogged
> arteries, reduces blood sugar and lowers blood pressure.
>
> But the swami defended his more extravagant claims that yoga could cure
> terminal illnesses such as cancer. He also said he had evidence that
> breathing exercises could help Aids patients recover by enabling a rise in
> the number of cells that the HIV virus destroys.
>
> Ramdev has an explanation for his success with cancer - that yoga
> oxygenates the blood which kills the tumour. "Yoga is self-healing and
> self-realisation. I have many cases of cancer which I can provide where
> patients have recovered. We have cured blood, throat, ovarian, uterine and
> throat cancers with yoga."
>
> In the case of HIV, he says scientists "have not understood [it] properly".
> He says that "through yoga and lifestyle changes people increase their CD4
> count [the cells the HIV virus attacks]. The truth seen for the first time
> does appear like a miracle."
>
> Such claims have angered many doctors. Mohammed Abbas, The president of the
> Indian Medical Association, said that although yoga is "good exercise, it
> cannot be used to make ridiculous claims about curing HIV or cancer. This is
> false hope for ill people."
>
> The swami says patients are tested and improvements measured by
> "independent" doctors. Asked whether he has run any tests to analyse
> treatment, he offers a ook of testimonies from disciples convinced they have
> been cured of cancer, cirrhosis and kidney failure.
>
> Some have called for the swami to be prosecuted for "peddling quackery of
> the highest order".
>
> "Claiming such absurdities is against the law," said Sanal Edamaruku of the
> Indian Rationalist Association. "The magical remedies act of 1954 was
> brought in to stop people such as Baba Ramdev from promoting dangerous ideas
> about curing cancer and the like.
>
> "The political class is running scared of this man and the backlash that
> such a prosecution might unleash."
>
>
> On 7/11/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aditya,
>>
>> Looks like you cant take the pain anymore. calling a member of the brinda
>> brigade. you know opposition to a quack, a whacko, and Baba Ramdev can exist
>> without being aligned to any particular ideology. what makes you say that
>> section 377 stays in the end of the mail? this shows your intentions my
>> friend. running from it is not helping you much. anyway i dont wish to
>> continue a debate with a irrational person such as you. you can derive
>> whatever conclusions u want to derive because you havent been able to answer
>> any of the questions which were posed in the list, but you kept on harping
>> about this babaji of yours. hardwar is a beautiful place, i guess people
>> like ramdev and their shivirs are an eyesore and against the sanctity of
>> that place. and yeah suggestion about me visiting hardwar, i will take it
>> seriously...but why dont u move out the drawing room discussions of delhi?
>> see for yourself and come back write. that's more educative for you. take
>> care and next time be strong in what you argue. dont use people like ramdev
>> to further your cause. my business is to expose quacks like ramdev and i
>> will keep doing so even if u dont like it. ramdev has made yoga into a
>> commodity, which is where i have a problem. he should have been arrested,
>> but with such cultural vanguards as such the saffron bandwagon, soon
>> heritage of india would be up for sale in amazon.com
>>
>> -with best wishes
>>
>> anupam
>>
>> On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Anupam
>>>
>>>   You need a good sleep. b'coz you have no argument left to counter
>>> truth.
>>> Enough of your propaganda on behalf of 'Jhollah brigade'.
>>>
>>> You speak on my behalf. How far can I tolerate that ? Do you get me ?
>>>
>>> I've nothing to do with Baba Ramdev. I had just posted a news article
>>> which
>>> you wanted to give publicity, hence this chain reaction. I've serious
>>> doubts
>>> over you now. Who knows how you are related to the Brinda Karat's of the
>>> world ? Did she pay you a good sum through a national television or was
>>> it
>>> mutual indoor decision ? You are good at such deals. isn't it ?
>>>
>>> I said, I respect homosexuals. I respect Anupam Chakravartty. Don't be an
>>> apologist Sir.
>>>
>>> I don't expect anything from Moderators. They will only react if
>>> something
>>> is said against their opinion as has happened in the past.
>>>
>>> Seems you had a competetive business to Baba Ramdev, and you failed
>>> yourself. Hence such hatred comes for the great Yoga Guru. In that case,
>>> I
>>> can surely understand your frustration. Well.. business is such my
>>> friend. I
>>> told you to go for 'Pranayama'. That might just motivate you and get you
>>> some new ideas of your own.
>>>
>>> I never said HOMOSEXUALITY is a disease. You said it ANUPAM CHAKRAVARTTY.
>>>
>>> Don't be a coward, agreeing to whatever the media and those so called
>>> intellectuals say. Have your on opinion boss. Don't get carried away.
>>>
>>> This hatred against a popular Youga Guru Baba Ramdev won't solve
>>> anything.
>>> It will only worsen your own image in public. It will make a mockery of
>>> whatever argument you have.
>>>
>>> NOW STOP SPREADING RUMOURS AGAINST HIM. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE LOST IT.
>>>
>>> I PITY YOU.
>>>
>>> P.S. - A month at Haridwar or even Gadmukhteshwar will be of help.
>>>
>>> I've nothing more to add to your stupid allegations. You instead suffer
>>> from
>>> a complex.
>>>
>>> God please help my friend.
>>>
>>> Section 377 IPC...here to stay still :)
>>>
>>> regardsAditya Raj Kaul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > Dear Aditya,
>>> >
>>> > I have nothing much to add to your ignorance. Thanks for advertising
>>> Baba
>>> > Ramdev on Sarai. Perhaps no one tried it befoe in this group. But you
>>> have
>>> > managed it. Why dont you also start supplying his press notes here? How
>>> > much
>>> > does he pay to talk such rubbish or rather how much do you get to
>>> spread
>>> > Ramdev's message?
>>> >
>>> > And what a hypocrite you are: on one hand you advertise this quack of a
>>> guy
>>> > who had filed an application in the supreme court against
>>> decriminalisation
>>> > of homosexuality, while on the other hand, you are now denying that you
>>> > never said anything about homosexuality being disease but using Baba
>>> Ramdev
>>> > as your proof you have been spreading distasteful arguments on this
>>> > reader's
>>> > list. its been noticed mr kaul. if speaking against unwarranted attacks
>>> on
>>> > people on the group is incorrect, then there is a moderator here and i
>>> > request his/her intervention on this issue.
>>> >
>>> > -anupam
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear Anupam
>>> > >
>>> > > You have again resorted to spreading rumours, getting to conclusions
>>> > about
>>> > > a
>>> > > public/religious figure and again without any substantial proof or
>>> > argument
>>> > > to back your claims. If you have personal differences with him, that
>>> is
>>> > an
>>> > > altogether different case. We don't care about it. Be mature in
>>> > > understanding his following and the service he has been giving to
>>> > millions
>>> > > worldwide. Not alone through his medicines of Patanjali, events in
>>> > > different
>>> > > global cities and TV programmes but through his motivation of doing
>>> Yoga.
>>> > > It
>>> > > has brought a drastic change in both rural areas and cities, if at
>>> all
>>> > you
>>> > > have capability of studying the positive change you should know. Even
>>> if
>>> > he
>>> > > charges some money for his medicines, why does it bother you so much
>>> ? It
>>> > > is
>>> > > a very right step.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes even if Baba Ramdev is doing what people want him to do, it is
>>> > service
>>> > > to the society. He is a charismatic Guru and millions of people trust
>>> > him.
>>> > > You don't need to worry so much about him. You can take care of your
>>> > > health.
>>> > > Comparing him only makes your point weak.
>>> > >
>>> > > You have a dirty habit of speaking on my behalf without even
>>> confirming
>>> > my
>>> > > opinion on the issue. I never said Homosexuality is a disease. This
>>> is
>>> > > something growing in your mind as I can read and understand. Pathetic
>>> of
>>> > > you. Grow up Anupam... will you ?
>>> > >
>>> > > I reiterate that there is a consensus that decriminalization is a
>>> very
>>> > > important and positive step taken by the Delhi High Court but there
>>> are
>>> > > serious issues with legalization. Homosexuality need not be legal.
>>> Not
>>> > just
>>> > > all religions are united against it, majority society is. You can't
>>> bring
>>> > > in
>>> > > a law out of nowhere and force it on the people just because a few
>>> > hundred
>>> > > people dance, sing and shout on roads on a particular holiday every
>>> year.
>>> > I
>>> > > respect Homosexuals, they need to be treated with care and
>>> compassion.
>>> > They
>>> > > are just like any other Human being.
>>> > >
>>> > > I think Anupam, you are still stuck in your four walls of ignorance.
>>> > Either
>>> > > you yourself face some trauma, with which I sympathise or else you
>>> are
>>> > just
>>> > > ignorant from childhood. Anyhow...I wish good for you.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ramdev and many others have challenged the Delhi HC Verdict in the
>>> > Supreme
>>> > > Court, nobody has stopped Anupam Chakravartty from doing the same.
>>> Don't
>>> > be
>>> > > sitting on a chair and typing with no rest, go and file another
>>> petition
>>> > if
>>> > > you really feel about the issue.
>>> > >
>>> > > Difference of opinion will remain. But your posts here talk about
>>> your
>>> > > arrogance more than the original issue.
>>> > >
>>> > > Section 377 IPC is here to stay...just some more time. :)
>>> > >
>>> > > love
>>> > >
>>> >
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