[Reader-list] Fw: Baba Ramdev claims Yoga has a cure...

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 14:52:52 IST 2009


Dear Anupam

  ...awwww CRY BABY Anupam Chakravartty. Looks like you have had enough of
tension.

How just was calling me a publicity agent of Baba Ramdev ? You seem to be
suffering deep inside mentally. I can just symapthise with your poor mental
health. Childish abuses will lead you nowhere kid.

My intensions are crystal clear boss. Your certain ideology always screams
against the great Baba Ramdev. That makes me say that for your information.
You may cry and scream out on reader;s list by spreading hatred and rumours.
That will just be sent to trash bin of all members.

I'm not running from anything. Infact you are by putting these silly and
lame remarks. I want Section 377 IPC to stay without criminalization. It is
as simple as that. Does something enter your mind now. This is easy english.

Thanks for your suggestions. Most of the time I'm on ground. on the streets
of Delhi and other cities, as part of my job and as my hobby too. Its time
you become a bit more practical in life, understanding an opposite view. It
won't make you feel low in anyway, you will emerge stronger as I said
earlier.

yes Haridwar is a beautiful place, it has lakhs of more visitors after
prominence of Baba Ramdev who is doing service to the Indian Society. You
want to be ignorant about it, that is your wish.

I don't consider this a debate anyway. Forget a debate with you whose
arguments are based on rumours and lame jokes. I wrote all these mails to
make you understand your reality. How much you are suffering 'coz of your
narrow minded approach!!

You should have been arrested for such 'insane' and 'illetrate' remarks. You
have lost it badly.

You can continue with your tirade against a particular religion, against a
particular saint. That is what you can achieve in life. Nothing more. I'm
honestly feeling sorry for you.

BABA RAMDEV will remain there and touch the sky with success in spreading
the message of Yoga. People like you can't do him any harm. You will just
abuse him inside your living rooms and inside your desktops. Outside you are
a scared rat.

You will never go out of Sarai List and your e-mail box. Be satisfied in
your ignorant and arrogant world. Hope this ends this mad chain and your
rumours against the saint.

God Bless you. Hope you don't work for amazon.com now.

regards

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Aditya,
>
> Looks like you cant take the pain anymore. calling a member of the brinda
> brigade. you know opposition to a quack, a whacko, and Baba Ramdev can
> exist
> without being aligned to any particular ideology. what makes you say that
> section 377 stays in the end of the mail? this shows your intentions my
> friend. running from it is not helping you much. anyway i dont wish to
> continue a debate with a irrational person such as you. you can derive
> whatever conclusions u want to derive because you havent been able to
> answer
> any of the questions which were posed in the list, but you kept on harping
> about this babaji of yours. hardwar is a beautiful place, i guess people
> like ramdev and their shivirs are an eyesore and against the sanctity of
> that place. and yeah suggestion about me visiting hardwar, i will take it
> seriously...but why dont u move out the drawing room discussions of delhi?
> see for yourself and come back write. that's more educative for you. take
> care and next time be strong in what you argue. dont use people like ramdev
> to further your cause. my business is to expose quacks like ramdev and i
> will keep doing so even if u dont like it. ramdev has made yoga into a
> commodity, which is where i have a problem. he should have been arrested,
> but with such cultural vanguards as such the saffron bandwagon, soon
> heritage of india would be up for sale in amazon.com
>
> -with best wishes
>
> anupam
>
> On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Anupam
> >
> >   You need a good sleep. b'coz you have no argument left to counter
> truth.
> > Enough of your propaganda on behalf of 'Jhollah brigade'.
> >
> > You speak on my behalf. How far can I tolerate that ? Do you get me ?
> >
> > I've nothing to do with Baba Ramdev. I had just posted a news article
> which
> > you wanted to give publicity, hence this chain reaction. I've serious
> > doubts
> > over you now. Who knows how you are related to the Brinda Karat's of the
> > world ? Did she pay you a good sum through a national television or was
> it
> > mutual indoor decision ? You are good at such deals. isn't it ?
> >
> > I said, I respect homosexuals. I respect Anupam Chakravartty. Don't be an
> > apologist Sir.
> >
> > I don't expect anything from Moderators. They will only react if
> something
> > is said against their opinion as has happened in the past.
> >
> > Seems you had a competetive business to Baba Ramdev, and you failed
> > yourself. Hence such hatred comes for the great Yoga Guru. In that case,
> I
> > can surely understand your frustration. Well.. business is such my
> friend.
> > I
> > told you to go for 'Pranayama'. That might just motivate you and get you
> > some new ideas of your own.
> >
> > I never said HOMOSEXUALITY is a disease. You said it ANUPAM CHAKRAVARTTY.
> >
> > Don't be a coward, agreeing to whatever the media and those so called
> > intellectuals say. Have your on opinion boss. Don't get carried away.
> >
> > This hatred against a popular Youga Guru Baba Ramdev won't solve
> anything.
> > It will only worsen your own image in public. It will make a mockery of
> > whatever argument you have.
> >
> > NOW STOP SPREADING RUMOURS AGAINST HIM. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE LOST IT.
> >
> > I PITY YOU.
> >
> > P.S. - A month at Haridwar or even Gadmukhteshwar will be of help.
> >
> > I've nothing more to add to your stupid allegations. You instead suffer
> > from
> > a complex.
> >
> > God please help my friend.
> >
> > Section 377 IPC...here to stay still :)
> >
> > regardsAditya Raj Kaul
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Aditya,
> > >
> > > I have nothing much to add to your ignorance. Thanks for advertising
> Baba
> > > Ramdev on Sarai. Perhaps no one tried it befoe in this group. But you
> > have
> > > managed it. Why dont you also start supplying his press notes here? How
> > > much
> > > does he pay to talk such rubbish or rather how much do you get to
> spread
> > > Ramdev's message?
> > >
> > > And what a hypocrite you are: on one hand you advertise this quack of a
> > guy
> > > who had filed an application in the supreme court against
> > decriminalisation
> > > of homosexuality, while on the other hand, you are now denying that you
> > > never said anything about homosexuality being disease but using Baba
> > Ramdev
> > > as your proof you have been spreading distasteful arguments on this
> > > reader's
> > > list. its been noticed mr kaul. if speaking against unwarranted attacks
> > on
> > > people on the group is incorrect, then there is a moderator here and i
> > > request his/her intervention on this issue.
> > >
> > > -anupam
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Anupam
> > > >
> > > > You have again resorted to spreading rumours, getting to conclusions
> > > about
> > > > a
> > > > public/religious figure and again without any substantial proof or
> > > argument
> > > > to back your claims. If you have personal differences with him, that
> is
> > > an
> > > > altogether different case. We don't care about it. Be mature in
> > > > understanding his following and the service he has been giving to
> > > millions
> > > > worldwide. Not alone through his medicines of Patanjali, events in
> > > > different
> > > > global cities and TV programmes but through his motivation of doing
> > Yoga.
> > > > It
> > > > has brought a drastic change in both rural areas and cities, if at
> all
> > > you
> > > > have capability of studying the positive change you should know. Even
> > if
> > > he
> > > > charges some money for his medicines, why does it bother you so much
> ?
> > It
> > > > is
> > > > a very right step.
> > > >
> > > > Yes even if Baba Ramdev is doing what people want him to do, it is
> > > service
> > > > to the society. He is a charismatic Guru and millions of people trust
> > > him.
> > > > You don't need to worry so much about him. You can take care of your
> > > > health.
> > > > Comparing him only makes your point weak.
> > > >
> > > > You have a dirty habit of speaking on my behalf without even
> confirming
> > > my
> > > > opinion on the issue. I never said Homosexuality is a disease. This
> is
> > > > something growing in your mind as I can read and understand. Pathetic
> > of
> > > > you. Grow up Anupam... will you ?
> > > >
> > > > I reiterate that there is a consensus that decriminalization is a
> very
> > > > important and positive step taken by the Delhi High Court but there
> are
> > > > serious issues with legalization. Homosexuality need not be legal.
> Not
> > > just
> > > > all religions are united against it, majority society is. You can't
> > bring
> > > > in
> > > > a law out of nowhere and force it on the people just because a few
> > > hundred
> > > > people dance, sing and shout on roads on a particular holiday every
> > year.
> > > I
> > > > respect Homosexuals, they need to be treated with care and
> compassion.
> > > They
> > > > are just like any other Human being.
> > > >
> > > > I think Anupam, you are still stuck in your four walls of ignorance.
> > > Either
> > > > you yourself face some trauma, with which I sympathise or else you
> are
> > > just
> > > > ignorant from childhood. Anyhow...I wish good for you.
> > > >
> > > > Ramdev and many others have challenged the Delhi HC Verdict in the
> > > Supreme
> > > > Court, nobody has stopped Anupam Chakravartty from doing the same.
> > Don't
> > > be
> > > > sitting on a chair and typing with no rest, go and file another
> > petition
> > > if
> > > > you really feel about the issue.
> > > >
> > > > Difference of opinion will remain. But your posts here talk about
> your
> > > > arrogance more than the original issue.
> > > >
> > > > Section 377 IPC is here to stay...just some more time. :)
> > > >
> > > > love
> > > >
> > >
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