[Reader-list] Fw: Baba Ramdev claims Yoga has a cure...

aryakrishnan ramakrishnan aryakrish at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 15:06:54 IST 2009 

See Devdutt Pattanaik's and other's response.

"Baba's understanding of the body is very different," says Dr
Pattanaik. "He is a very good yoga instructor. But if yoga could cure
everything, why has it not cured his squint? Does he not consider it
to be a problem?"

http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/jul/10/yoga-helped-many-accept-their-sexual-orientation.htm



On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul<kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Anupam
>
>  ...awwww CRY BABY Anupam Chakravartty. Looks like you have had enough of
> tension.
>
> How just was calling me a publicity agent of Baba Ramdev ? You seem to be
> suffering deep inside mentally. I can just symapthise with your poor mental
> health. Childish abuses will lead you nowhere kid.
>
> My intensions are crystal clear boss. Your certain ideology always screams
> against the great Baba Ramdev. That makes me say that for your information.
> You may cry and scream out on reader;s list by spreading hatred and rumours.
> That will just be sent to trash bin of all members.
>
> I'm not running from anything. Infact you are by putting these silly and
> lame remarks. I want Section 377 IPC to stay without criminalization. It is
> as simple as that. Does something enter your mind now. This is easy english.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions. Most of the time I'm on ground. on the streets
> of Delhi and other cities, as part of my job and as my hobby too. Its time
> you become a bit more practical in life, understanding an opposite view. It
> won't make you feel low in anyway, you will emerge stronger as I said
> earlier.
>
> yes Haridwar is a beautiful place, it has lakhs of more visitors after
> prominence of Baba Ramdev who is doing service to the Indian Society. You
> want to be ignorant about it, that is your wish.
>
> I don't consider this a debate anyway. Forget a debate with you whose
> arguments are based on rumours and lame jokes. I wrote all these mails to
> make you understand your reality. How much you are suffering 'coz of your
> narrow minded approach!!
>
> You should have been arrested for such 'insane' and 'illetrate' remarks. You
> have lost it badly.
>
> You can continue with your tirade against a particular religion, against a
> particular saint. That is what you can achieve in life. Nothing more. I'm
> honestly feeling sorry for you.
>
> BABA RAMDEV will remain there and touch the sky with success in spreading
> the message of Yoga. People like you can't do him any harm. You will just
> abuse him inside your living rooms and inside your desktops. Outside you are
> a scared rat.
>
> You will never go out of Sarai List and your e-mail box. Be satisfied in
> your ignorant and arrogant world. Hope this ends this mad chain and your
> rumours against the saint.
>
> God Bless you. Hope you don't work for amazon.com now.
>
> regards
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Aditya,
>>
>> Looks like you cant take the pain anymore. calling a member of the brinda
>> brigade. you know opposition to a quack, a whacko, and Baba Ramdev can
>> exist
>> without being aligned to any particular ideology. what makes you say that
>> section 377 stays in the end of the mail? this shows your intentions my
>> friend. running from it is not helping you much. anyway i dont wish to
>> continue a debate with a irrational person such as you. you can derive
>> whatever conclusions u want to derive because you havent been able to
>> answer
>> any of the questions which were posed in the list, but you kept on harping
>> about this babaji of yours. hardwar is a beautiful place, i guess people
>> like ramdev and their shivirs are an eyesore and against the sanctity of
>> that place. and yeah suggestion about me visiting hardwar, i will take it
>> seriously...but why dont u move out the drawing room discussions of delhi?
>> see for yourself and come back write. that's more educative for you. take
>> care and next time be strong in what you argue. dont use people like ramdev
>> to further your cause. my business is to expose quacks like ramdev and i
>> will keep doing so even if u dont like it. ramdev has made yoga into a
>> commodity, which is where i have a problem. he should have been arrested,
>> but with such cultural vanguards as such the saffron bandwagon, soon
>> heritage of india would be up for sale in amazon.com
>>
>> -with best wishes
>>
>> anupam
>>
>> On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Anupam
>> >
>> >   You need a good sleep. b'coz you have no argument left to counter
>> truth.
>> > Enough of your propaganda on behalf of 'Jhollah brigade'.
>> >
>> > You speak on my behalf. How far can I tolerate that ? Do you get me ?
>> >
>> > I've nothing to do with Baba Ramdev. I had just posted a news article
>> which
>> > you wanted to give publicity, hence this chain reaction. I've serious
>> > doubts
>> > over you now. Who knows how you are related to the Brinda Karat's of the
>> > world ? Did she pay you a good sum through a national television or was
>> it
>> > mutual indoor decision ? You are good at such deals. isn't it ?
>> >
>> > I said, I respect homosexuals. I respect Anupam Chakravartty. Don't be an
>> > apologist Sir.
>> >
>> > I don't expect anything from Moderators. They will only react if
>> something
>> > is said against their opinion as has happened in the past.
>> >
>> > Seems you had a competetive business to Baba Ramdev, and you failed
>> > yourself. Hence such hatred comes for the great Yoga Guru. In that case,
>> I
>> > can surely understand your frustration. Well.. business is such my
>> friend.
>> > I
>> > told you to go for 'Pranayama'. That might just motivate you and get you
>> > some new ideas of your own.
>> >
>> > I never said HOMOSEXUALITY is a disease. You said it ANUPAM CHAKRAVARTTY.
>> >
>> > Don't be a coward, agreeing to whatever the media and those so called
>> > intellectuals say. Have your on opinion boss. Don't get carried away.
>> >
>> > This hatred against a popular Youga Guru Baba Ramdev won't solve
>> anything.
>> > It will only worsen your own image in public. It will make a mockery of
>> > whatever argument you have.
>> >
>> > NOW STOP SPREADING RUMOURS AGAINST HIM. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE LOST IT.
>> >
>> > I PITY YOU.
>> >
>> > P.S. - A month at Haridwar or even Gadmukhteshwar will be of help.
>> >
>> > I've nothing more to add to your stupid allegations. You instead suffer
>> > from
>> > a complex.
>> >
>> > God please help my friend.
>> >
>> > Section 377 IPC...here to stay still :)
>> >
>> > regardsAditya Raj Kaul
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Aditya,
>> > >
>> > > I have nothing much to add to your ignorance. Thanks for advertising
>> Baba
>> > > Ramdev on Sarai. Perhaps no one tried it befoe in this group. But you
>> > have
>> > > managed it. Why dont you also start supplying his press notes here? How
>> > > much
>> > > does he pay to talk such rubbish or rather how much do you get to
>> spread
>> > > Ramdev's message?
>> > >
>> > > And what a hypocrite you are: on one hand you advertise this quack of a
>> > guy
>> > > who had filed an application in the supreme court against
>> > decriminalisation
>> > > of homosexuality, while on the other hand, you are now denying that you
>> > > never said anything about homosexuality being disease but using Baba
>> > Ramdev
>> > > as your proof you have been spreading distasteful arguments on this
>> > > reader's
>> > > list. its been noticed mr kaul. if speaking against unwarranted attacks
>> > on
>> > > people on the group is incorrect, then there is a moderator here and i
>> > > request his/her intervention on this issue.
>> > >
>> > > -anupam
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Anupam
>> > > >
>> > > > You have again resorted to spreading rumours, getting to conclusions
>> > > about
>> > > > a
>> > > > public/religious figure and again without any substantial proof or
>> > > argument
>> > > > to back your claims. If you have personal differences with him, that
>> is
>> > > an
>> > > > altogether different case. We don't care about it. Be mature in
>> > > > understanding his following and the service he has been giving to
>> > > millions
>> > > > worldwide. Not alone through his medicines of Patanjali, events in
>> > > > different
>> > > > global cities and TV programmes but through his motivation of doing
>> > Yoga.
>> > > > It
>> > > > has brought a drastic change in both rural areas and cities, if at
>> all
>> > > you
>> > > > have capability of studying the positive change you should know. Even
>> > if
>> > > he
>> > > > charges some money for his medicines, why does it bother you so much
>> ?
>> > It
>> > > > is
>> > > > a very right step.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes even if Baba Ramdev is doing what people want him to do, it is
>> > > service
>> > > > to the society. He is a charismatic Guru and millions of people trust
>> > > him.
>> > > > You don't need to worry so much about him. You can take care of your
>> > > > health.
>> > > > Comparing him only makes your point weak.
>> > > >
>> > > > You have a dirty habit of speaking on my behalf without even
>> confirming
>> > > my
>> > > > opinion on the issue. I never said Homosexuality is a disease. This
>> is
>> > > > something growing in your mind as I can read and understand. Pathetic
>> > of
>> > > > you. Grow up Anupam... will you ?
>> > > >
>> > > > I reiterate that there is a consensus that decriminalization is a
>> very
>> > > > important and positive step taken by the Delhi High Court but there
>> are
>> > > > serious issues with legalization. Homosexuality need not be legal.
>> Not
>> > > just
>> > > > all religions are united against it, majority society is. You can't
>> > bring
>> > > > in
>> > > > a law out of nowhere and force it on the people just because a few
>> > > hundred
>> > > > people dance, sing and shout on roads on a particular holiday every
>> > year.
>> > > I
>> > > > respect Homosexuals, they need to be treated with care and
>> compassion.
>> > > They
>> > > > are just like any other Human being.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think Anupam, you are still stuck in your four walls of ignorance.
>> > > Either
>> > > > you yourself face some trauma, with which I sympathise or else you
>> are
>> > > just
>> > > > ignorant from childhood. Anyhow...I wish good for you.
>> > > >
>> > > > Ramdev and many others have challenged the Delhi HC Verdict in the
>> > > Supreme
>> > > > Court, nobody has stopped Anupam Chakravartty from doing the same.
>> > Don't
>> > > be
>> > > > sitting on a chair and typing with no rest, go and file another
>> > petition
>> > > if
>> > > > you really feel about the issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Difference of opinion will remain. But your posts here talk about
>> your
>> > > > arrogance more than the original issue.
>> > > >
>> > > > Section 377 IPC is here to stay...just some more time. :)
>> > > >
>> > > > love
>> > > >
>> > >
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