[Reader-list] Fw: Baba Ramdev claims Yoga has a cure...

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 15:27:04 IST 2009 

Dear Aditya,

you last email shows your maturity in understanding any issue. its been
exposed. its upto the reader to decide.
i have nothing to add. and yeah calling me a cry baby is helping too much :)

-anupam

On 7/11/09, aryakrishnan ramakrishnan <aryakrish at gmail.com> wrote:

> See Devdutt Pattanaik's and other's response.
>
> "Baba's understanding of the body is very different," says Dr
> Pattanaik. "He is a very good yoga instructor. But if yoga could cure
> everything, why has it not cured his squint? Does he not consider it
> to be a problem?"
>
>
> http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/jul/10/yoga-helped-many-accept-their-sexual-orientation.htm
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul<kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Anupam
> >
> >  ...awwww CRY BABY Anupam Chakravartty. Looks like you have had enough of
> > tension.
> >
> > How just was calling me a publicity agent of Baba Ramdev ? You seem to be
> > suffering deep inside mentally. I can just symapthise with your poor
> mental
> > health. Childish abuses will lead you nowhere kid.
> >
> > My intensions are crystal clear boss. Your certain ideology always
> screams
> > against the great Baba Ramdev. That makes me say that for your
> information.
> > You may cry and scream out on reader;s list by spreading hatred and
> rumours.
> > That will just be sent to trash bin of all members.
> >
> > I'm not running from anything. Infact you are by putting these silly and
> > lame remarks. I want Section 377 IPC to stay without criminalization. It
> is
> > as simple as that. Does something enter your mind now. This is easy
> english.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestions. Most of the time I'm on ground. on the
> streets
> > of Delhi and other cities, as part of my job and as my hobby too. Its
> time
> > you become a bit more practical in life, understanding an opposite view.
> It
> > won't make you feel low in anyway, you will emerge stronger as I said
> > earlier.
> >
> > yes Haridwar is a beautiful place, it has lakhs of more visitors after
> > prominence of Baba Ramdev who is doing service to the Indian Society. You
> > want to be ignorant about it, that is your wish.
> >
> > I don't consider this a debate anyway. Forget a debate with you whose
> > arguments are based on rumours and lame jokes. I wrote all these mails to
> > make you understand your reality. How much you are suffering 'coz of your
> > narrow minded approach!!
> >
> > You should have been arrested for such 'insane' and 'illetrate' remarks.
> You
> > have lost it badly.
> >
> > You can continue with your tirade against a particular religion, against
> a
> > particular saint. That is what you can achieve in life. Nothing more. I'm
> > honestly feeling sorry for you.
> >
> > BABA RAMDEV will remain there and touch the sky with success in spreading
> > the message of Yoga. People like you can't do him any harm. You will just
> > abuse him inside your living rooms and inside your desktops. Outside you
> are
> > a scared rat.
> >
> > You will never go out of Sarai List and your e-mail box. Be satisfied in
> > your ignorant and arrogant world. Hope this ends this mad chain and your
> > rumours against the saint.
> >
> > God Bless you. Hope you don't work for amazon.com now.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Aditya,
> >>
> >> Looks like you cant take the pain anymore. calling a member of the
> brinda
> >> brigade. you know opposition to a quack, a whacko, and Baba Ramdev can
> >> exist
> >> without being aligned to any particular ideology. what makes you say
> that
> >> section 377 stays in the end of the mail? this shows your intentions my
> >> friend. running from it is not helping you much. anyway i dont wish to
> >> continue a debate with a irrational person such as you. you can derive
> >> whatever conclusions u want to derive because you havent been able to
> >> answer
> >> any of the questions which were posed in the list, but you kept on
> harping
> >> about this babaji of yours. hardwar is a beautiful place, i guess people
> >> like ramdev and their shivirs are an eyesore and against the sanctity of
> >> that place. and yeah suggestion about me visiting hardwar, i will take
> it
> >> seriously...but why dont u move out the drawing room discussions of
> delhi?
> >> see for yourself and come back write. that's more educative for you.
> take
> >> care and next time be strong in what you argue. dont use people like
> ramdev
> >> to further your cause. my business is to expose quacks like ramdev and i
> >> will keep doing so even if u dont like it. ramdev has made yoga into a
> >> commodity, which is where i have a problem. he should have been
> arrested,
> >> but with such cultural vanguards as such the saffron bandwagon, soon
> >> heritage of india would be up for sale in amazon.com
> >>
> >> -with best wishes
> >>
> >> anupam
> >>
> >> On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Anupam
> >> >
> >> >   You need a good sleep. b'coz you have no argument left to counter
> >> truth.
> >> > Enough of your propaganda on behalf of 'Jhollah brigade'.
> >> >
> >> > You speak on my behalf. How far can I tolerate that ? Do you get me ?
> >> >
> >> > I've nothing to do with Baba Ramdev. I had just posted a news article
> >> which
> >> > you wanted to give publicity, hence this chain reaction. I've serious
> >> > doubts
> >> > over you now. Who knows how you are related to the Brinda Karat's of
> the
> >> > world ? Did she pay you a good sum through a national television or
> was
> >> it
> >> > mutual indoor decision ? You are good at such deals. isn't it ?
> >> >
> >> > I said, I respect homosexuals. I respect Anupam Chakravartty. Don't be
> an
> >> > apologist Sir.
> >> >
> >> > I don't expect anything from Moderators. They will only react if
> >> something
> >> > is said against their opinion as has happened in the past.
> >> >
> >> > Seems you had a competetive business to Baba Ramdev, and you failed
> >> > yourself. Hence such hatred comes for the great Yoga Guru. In that
> case,
> >> I
> >> > can surely understand your frustration. Well.. business is such my
> >> friend.
> >> > I
> >> > told you to go for 'Pranayama'. That might just motivate you and get
> you
> >> > some new ideas of your own.
> >> >
> >> > I never said HOMOSEXUALITY is a disease. You said it ANUPAM
> CHAKRAVARTTY.
> >> >
> >> > Don't be a coward, agreeing to whatever the media and those so called
> >> > intellectuals say. Have your on opinion boss. Don't get carried away.
> >> >
> >> > This hatred against a popular Youga Guru Baba Ramdev won't solve
> >> anything.
> >> > It will only worsen your own image in public. It will make a mockery
> of
> >> > whatever argument you have.
> >> >
> >> > NOW STOP SPREADING RUMOURS AGAINST HIM. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE LOST IT.
> >> >
> >> > I PITY YOU.
> >> >
> >> > P.S. - A month at Haridwar or even Gadmukhteshwar will be of help.
> >> >
> >> > I've nothing more to add to your stupid allegations. You instead
> suffer
> >> > from
> >> > a complex.
> >> >
> >> > God please help my friend.
> >> >
> >> > Section 377 IPC...here to stay still :)
> >> >
> >> > regardsAditya Raj Kaul
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dear Aditya,
> >> > >
> >> > > I have nothing much to add to your ignorance. Thanks for advertising
> >> Baba
> >> > > Ramdev on Sarai. Perhaps no one tried it befoe in this group. But
> you
> >> > have
> >> > > managed it. Why dont you also start supplying his press notes here?
> How
> >> > > much
> >> > > does he pay to talk such rubbish or rather how much do you get to
> >> spread
> >> > > Ramdev's message?
> >> > >
> >> > > And what a hypocrite you are: on one hand you advertise this quack
> of a
> >> > guy
> >> > > who had filed an application in the supreme court against
> >> > decriminalisation
> >> > > of homosexuality, while on the other hand, you are now denying that
> you
> >> > > never said anything about homosexuality being disease but using Baba
> >> > Ramdev
> >> > > as your proof you have been spreading distasteful arguments on this
> >> > > reader's
> >> > > list. its been noticed mr kaul. if speaking against unwarranted
> attacks
> >> > on
> >> > > people on the group is incorrect, then there is a moderator here and
> i
> >> > > request his/her intervention on this issue.
> >> > >
> >> > > -anupam
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 7/11/09, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dear Anupam
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You have again resorted to spreading rumours, getting to
> conclusions
> >> > > about
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > public/religious figure and again without any substantial proof or
> >> > > argument
> >> > > > to back your claims. If you have personal differences with him,
> that
> >> is
> >> > > an
> >> > > > altogether different case. We don't care about it. Be mature in
> >> > > > understanding his following and the service he has been giving to
> >> > > millions
> >> > > > worldwide. Not alone through his medicines of Patanjali, events in
> >> > > > different
> >> > > > global cities and TV programmes but through his motivation of
> doing
> >> > Yoga.
> >> > > > It
> >> > > > has brought a drastic change in both rural areas and cities, if at
> >> all
> >> > > you
> >> > > > have capability of studying the positive change you should know.
> Even
> >> > if
> >> > > he
> >> > > > charges some money for his medicines, why does it bother you so
> much
> >> ?
> >> > It
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > a very right step.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yes even if Baba Ramdev is doing what people want him to do, it is
> >> > > service
> >> > > > to the society. He is a charismatic Guru and millions of people
> trust
> >> > > him.
> >> > > > You don't need to worry so much about him. You can take care of
> your
> >> > > > health.
> >> > > > Comparing him only makes your point weak.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You have a dirty habit of speaking on my behalf without even
> >> confirming
> >> > > my
> >> > > > opinion on the issue. I never said Homosexuality is a disease.
> This
> >> is
> >> > > > something growing in your mind as I can read and understand.
> Pathetic
> >> > of
> >> > > > you. Grow up Anupam... will you ?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I reiterate that there is a consensus that decriminalization is a
> >> very
> >> > > > important and positive step taken by the Delhi High Court but
> there
> >> are
> >> > > > serious issues with legalization. Homosexuality need not be legal.
> >> Not
> >> > > just
> >> > > > all religions are united against it, majority society is. You
> can't
> >> > bring
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > a law out of nowhere and force it on the people just because a few
> >> > > hundred
> >> > > > people dance, sing and shout on roads on a particular holiday
> every
> >> > year.
> >> > > I
> >> > > > respect Homosexuals, they need to be treated with care and
> >> compassion.
> >> > > They
> >> > > > are just like any other Human being.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think Anupam, you are still stuck in your four walls of
> ignorance.
> >> > > Either
> >> > > > you yourself face some trauma, with which I sympathise or else you
> >> are
> >> > > just
> >> > > > ignorant from childhood. Anyhow...I wish good for you.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ramdev and many others have challenged the Delhi HC Verdict in the
> >> > > Supreme
> >> > > > Court, nobody has stopped Anupam Chakravartty from doing the same.
> >> > Don't
> >> > > be
> >> > > > sitting on a chair and typing with no rest, go and file another
> >> > petition
> >> > > if
> >> > > > you really feel about the issue.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Difference of opinion will remain. But your posts here talk about
> >> your
> >> > > > arrogance more than the original issue.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Section 377 IPC is here to stay...just some more time. :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > love
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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