[Reader-list] Fwd: On Kashmir and Self Determination

[anupam chakravartty]

dear rajen,

Yes, i agree that armed forces are humans, therefore utmost care has to be
taken from the side of the superiors to differentiate those who are honestly
living their lives for their daily bread and those who are creating trouble.
this is irrespective of religions, extremism or rebellion (being different
but complementing each other) is harboured by people from all political
colours and laters when such rebellion gathers more people, state security
agencies are used to quell them. this, i am not saying in context kashmir
but also in terms of north east:

If you go read this article, i hope your ideas about cross border
infiltration gets cleared:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Cong--BJP-sought-Black-Widow-help-in-poll--Inquiry/492466

with regards,

anupam

On 7/24/09, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Anupam,
>
> and all on readers list,
>
>  basically armed forces, I mean defence forces are used for WAR in defence
> of the nation, as they willingly lay down life for their nation protecting
> the citizens of the nation, whether such sacrifice is acknowledged, accepted
> with humility or otherwise.
>
> Billion crores have been spent on Kashmir state by governance for the
> sustainance of the state, few in  ungrateful in Kashmir state are still
> craving for the affiliation to Pakistan because of the fanatic religious
> overtones and undertones and see the helping hand of India as oppressing
> power, not all, but few of them. India being democratic, this dissent is
> tolerated if not exceeds to violent means. Basically, in such a situation
> army has no role to play except at borders to see that cross border terror
> does not creep in, but this faction gains support from such elements and
> foists violence for the "azaadi". Faith in any way does not preach violence,
> but religious followers of faith for the power, use faith for violence in
> all faiths.
>
> Meera is no exception as her surname suggests, as the army has not to be
> employed for the peace keeping but only for fighting the insurgency at
> borders, but when army personnel, who are also humans, see the inhuman acts
> of the fanatics, who have no uniforms, but hide AK47s inside religious
> robes, they have also developed the sense of caution with this type of
> civilians in terror form as insurgents. and their supporters.Meera living in
> Delhi has gone to visit the heaven on earth, now made hell on earth, thanks
> to violence by the insurgents, faithful religious faith followers and in
> retaliation, the armed forces. The basic fault lies in the power seekers who
> sleep with enemy for the sake of power, be it PDP or Congress or NC, least
> bothered about real governance in the state.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rajen.
>
>  On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I am just shocked to read how far the several readers on this list can
>> speculate without checking the ground realities just to further one cause.
>> It is disgusting and demeaning if one underlines such possibilities which
>> could be only thought by a movie director. Even if there is a slim
>> possibility of militants dressed up armed forces doing such activities,
>> why
>> is it that rapes in Nalbari and Churanchandpur in Assam and Manipur by
>> Indian Army despite police records have been hushed? how is it there are
>> such a large number of missing persons both in north east and kashmir?
>> what
>> does the reader have to say about mass graves found in kashmir, manipur
>> and
>> in bastar, in the heart of this country? they were done by men in uniform
>> or
>> uniformed men?
>>
>> i dont know if it applies to your reason or not dear reader, since there
>> were such instances where armed forces took such steps of mass execution
>> or
>> gang rapes, that's how the extremists or terrorists got theses idea of
>> using
>> the same tactics on the people. could that not be a possibility? how many
>> possibilities do you want to underline here dear reader sitting
>> comfortably
>> inside your airconditioned rooms watching 24*7 news channels? down with
>> such
>> arm-chair speculation and shoddy analysis of a situation that's not only
>> affecting local people in these problem areas but also making it
>> impossible
>> to find out which particular coterie of armed forces are behind such
>> activities making it into behemoth instead of protector.
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>
>
> --
> Rajen.
>
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