[Reader-list] Fwd: On Kashmir and Self Determination

[Murali V]

Hello,
There is also the infiltration of the extremists into armed forces???

V Murali

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:59 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> dear rajen,
>
> Yes, i agree that armed forces are humans, therefore utmost care has to be
> taken from the side of the superiors to differentiate those who are
> honestly
> living their lives for their daily bread and those who are creating
> trouble.
> this is irrespective of religions, extremism or rebellion (being different
> but complementing each other) is harboured by people from all political
> colours and laters when such rebellion gathers more people, state security
> agencies are used to quell them. this, i am not saying in context kashmir
> but also in terms of north east:
>
> If you go read this article, i hope your ideas about cross border
> infiltration gets cleared:
>
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Cong--BJP-sought-Black-Widow-help-in-poll--Inquiry/492466
>
> with regards,
>
> anupam
>
> On 7/24/09, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Anupam,
> >
> > and all on readers list,
> >
> >  basically armed forces, I mean defence forces are used for WAR in
> defence
> > of the nation, as they willingly lay down life for their nation
> protecting
> > the citizens of the nation, whether such sacrifice is acknowledged,
> accepted
> > with humility or otherwise.
> >
> > Billion crores have been spent on Kashmir state by governance for the
> > sustainance of the state, few in  ungrateful in Kashmir state are still
> > craving for the affiliation to Pakistan because of the fanatic religious
> > overtones and undertones and see the helping hand of India as oppressing
> > power, not all, but few of them. India being democratic, this dissent is
> > tolerated if not exceeds to violent means. Basically, in such a situation
> > army has no role to play except at borders to see that cross border
> terror
> > does not creep in, but this faction gains support from such elements and
> > foists violence for the "azaadi". Faith in any way does not preach
> violence,
> > but religious followers of faith for the power, use faith for violence in
> > all faiths.
> >
> > Meera is no exception as her surname suggests, as the army has not to be
> > employed for the peace keeping but only for fighting the insurgency at
> > borders, but when army personnel, who are also humans, see the inhuman
> acts
> > of the fanatics, who have no uniforms, but hide AK47s inside religious
> > robes, they have also developed the sense of caution with this type of
> > civilians in terror form as insurgents. and their supporters.Meera living
> in
> > Delhi has gone to visit the heaven on earth, now made hell on earth,
> thanks
> > to violence by the insurgents, faithful religious faith followers and in
> > retaliation, the armed forces. The basic fault lies in the power seekers
> who
> > sleep with enemy for the sake of power, be it PDP or Congress or NC,
> least
> > bothered about real governance in the state.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rajen.
> >
> >  On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I am just shocked to read how far the several readers on this list can
> >> speculate without checking the ground realities just to further one
> cause.
> >> It is disgusting and demeaning if one underlines such possibilities
> which
> >> could be only thought by a movie director. Even if there is a slim
> >> possibility of militants dressed up armed forces doing such activities,
> >> why
> >> is it that rapes in Nalbari and Churanchandpur in Assam and Manipur by
> >> Indian Army despite police records have been hushed? how is it there are
> >> such a large number of missing persons both in north east and kashmir?
> >> what
> >> does the reader have to say about mass graves found in kashmir, manipur
> >> and
> >> in bastar, in the heart of this country? they were done by men in
> uniform
> >> or
> >> uniformed men?
> >>
> >> i dont know if it applies to your reason or not dear reader, since there
> >> were such instances where armed forces took such steps of mass execution
> >> or
> >> gang rapes, that's how the extremists or terrorists got theses idea of
> >> using
> >> the same tactics on the people. could that not be a possibility? how
> many
> >> possibilities do you want to underline here dear reader sitting
> >> comfortably
> >> inside your airconditioned rooms watching 24*7 news channels? down with
> >> such
> >> arm-chair speculation and shoddy analysis of a situation that's not only
> >> affecting local people in these problem areas but also making it
> >> impossible
> >> to find out which particular coterie of armed forces are behind such
> >> activities making it into behemoth instead of protector.
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Rajen.
> >
> >
> >
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