[Reader-list] Fwd: On Kashmir and Self Determination

[Murali V]

Well, may be true of inhuman infiltrators of the extremist kind.
V Murali

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Meera Rizvi <meera.rizvi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Rajendra,
>
> What am I not an exception to? And what does my surname have to do with it?
> Would really like to know.
>
> Also, the army like any other organization is populated by the humane as
> well as inhumane. It would be utterly naive to suppose otherwise. And when
> a
> jawan, trained to destroy an enemy is put into a situation where its not
> clear who is a friend and who an enemy, he's bound to be a little jumpy.
>
> Regards,
>
> Meera
>
>
> On 7/24/09, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Anupam,
> >
> > and all on readers list,
> >
> > basically armed forces, I mean defence forces are used for WAR in defence
> > of the nation, as they willingly lay down life for their nation
> protecting
> > the citizens of the nation, whether such sacrifice is acknowledged,
> > accepted
> > with humility or otherwise.
> >
> > Billion crores have been spent on Kashmir state by governance for the
> > sustainance of the state, few in  ungrateful in Kashmir state are still
> > craving for the affiliation to Pakistan because of the fanatic religious
> > overtones and undertones and see the helping hand of India as oppressing
> > power, not all, but few of them. India being democratic, this dissent is
> > tolerated if not exceeds to violent means. Basically, in such a situation
> > army has no role to play except at borders to see that cross border
> terror
> > does not creep in, but this faction gains support from such elements and
> > foists violence for the "azaadi". Faith in any way does not preach
> > violence,
> > but religious followers of faith for the power, use faith for violence in
> > all faiths.
> >
> > Meera is no exception as her surname suggests, as the army has not to be
> > employed for the peace keeping but only for fighting the insurgency at
> > borders, but when army personnel, who are also humans, see the inhuman
> acts
> > of the fanatics, who have no uniforms, but hide AK47s inside religious
> > robes, they have also developed the sense of caution with this type of
> > civilians in terror form as insurgents. and their supporters.Meera living
> > in
> > Delhi has gone to visit the heaven on earth, now made hell on earth,
> thanks
> > to violence by the insurgents, faithful religious faith followers and in
> > retaliation, the armed forces. The basic fault lies in the power seekers
> > who
> > sleep with enemy for the sake of power, be it PDP or Congress or NC,
> least
> > bothered about real governance in the state.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rajen.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM, anupam chakravartty <
> c.anupam at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I am just shocked to read how far the several readers on this list can
> > > speculate without checking the ground realities just to further one
> > cause.
> > > It is disgusting and demeaning if one underlines such possibilities
> which
> > > could be only thought by a movie director. Even if there is a slim
> > > possibility of militants dressed up armed forces doing such activities,
> > why
> > > is it that rapes in Nalbari and Churanchandpur in Assam and Manipur by
> > > Indian Army despite police records have been hushed? how is it there
> are
> > > such a large number of missing persons both in north east and kashmir?
> > what
> > > does the reader have to say about mass graves found in kashmir, manipur
> > and
> > > in bastar, in the heart of this country? they were done by men in
> uniform
> > > or
> > > uniformed men?
> > >
> > > i dont know if it applies to your reason or not dear reader, since
> there
> > > were such instances where armed forces took such steps of mass
> execution
> > or
> > > gang rapes, that's how the extremists or terrorists got theses idea of
> > > using
> > > the same tactics on the people. could that not be a possibility? how
> many
> > > possibilities do you want to underline here dear reader sitting
> > comfortably
> > > inside your airconditioned rooms watching 24*7 news channels? down with
> > > such
> > > arm-chair speculation and shoddy analysis of a situation that's not
> only
> > > affecting local people in these problem areas but also making it
> > impossible
> > > to find out which particular coterie of armed forces are behind such
> > > activities making it into behemoth instead of protector.
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