[Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned

Sun Jun 7 14:22:22 IST 2009

Anybody doubts that Vedavati was speaking on behalf of Hindus total?
Let her clarify it for all of us.(Sorry,if I am assuming the wrong gender
for Ms/MrVedavati. Kindly help it too)
Regards,
Venu

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:

> If, one vedavathi speaks she is on behalf of hindus, if one alex speaks it
> is observation, true secular in practice and preaching.!
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rajen,
>> Do you really believe that one would not make observations or statements
>> only on behalf of on or other community?If you do ,this is precisely what
>> many of us call communalism
>> Best,
>> Venu
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi <
>> rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, Mr. Alex is talking behalf of which community.?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ignorance may be bliss; arrogance might be bliss as well, at least until
>>>> someone gets held up for rash assumptions on others..
>>>> However, certain manifestations of ignorance plus arrogance are better
>>>> to be
>>>> left as they are; I believe that will be healthy for people on both
>>>> sides of
>>>> the divide..
>>>> Feel no temptation to dispute the contents here;
>>>> but who are you to speak for the entire Hindus in India,any way?
>>>>
>>>> Peace and love,
>>>> Venu.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > good -that israel govt did not listen to you and returned socalled
>>>> occupied
>>>> > territories to palestinians. i never knew that there are pseudo
>>>> seculars in
>>>> > israel too (like india)
>>>> >
>>>> > you feel govt. of india should give autonomy to kashmir, are you aware
>>>> that
>>>> > kashmiri hindus have been thrown out of kashmir?
>>>> > do you find muslims so trustworthy that in autonomous, muslims
>>>> dominated
>>>> > state hindus can remain safe?
>>>> >
>>>> > whole pakistan is a muslim occupied india, are you aware of that?
>>>> >
>>>> >  vedavati
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
>>>> > To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
>>>> > Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 2:58 AM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. I think we should return the Occupied Territories (West Bank, Gaza,
>>>> East
>>>> > Jerusalem) to the Palestinian people.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2. I never said I speak for Kashmir.
>>>> >
>>>> > 3. I think the valley should be autonomous (nobody should be removed
>>>> from
>>>> > their homes).
>>>> >
>>>> > 4. That is for you and Pakistan to decide over the course - hopefully
>>>> one
>>>> > day - of peace negotiations.
>>>> >
>>>> > A
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > falsedichotomies.com
>>>> >
>>>> > "The most radical and the only secure form of possession is
>>>> destruction,
>>>> > for only what we have destroyed is safely and forever ours." Hannah
>>>> Arendt
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
>>>> > To: "Alex Stein" <alex.stein at talk21.com>
>>>> > Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 7:38 PM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hello alex,
>>>> > 1) will you give part of your country to any other nation?
>>>> > 2) who has given you right to speak for kashmir?
>>>> > 3) if kashmir is given to muslims what about those hindus who have
>>>> been
>>>> > living there since last thousand years?
>>>> > 4) will you dare to tell pakistan to give our land back?
>>>> > vedavati
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
>>>> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
>>>> > To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
>>>> > Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 2:27 AM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Vedavti,
>>>> > Thanks for your email.
>>>> > We are not standing in opposition to Hindus. I deeply love India, its
>>>> > culture and its people. I believe, though, that the Kashmir people
>>>> have a
>>>> > right to self-determination, just like anyone else, and I believe that
>>>> it is
>>>> > in India's interest to grant it to them, at least when the time is
>>>> right.
>>>> > Best wishes,
>>>> > Alex Stein
>>>> >
>>>> > PS - you may be interested in my blog of my travels in India last
>>>> summer -
>>>> > wanderingsatlan.blogspot.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > falsedichotomies.com
>>>> >
>>>> > "The most radical and the only secure form of possession is
>>>> destruction,
>>>> > for only what we have destroyed is safely and forever ours." Hannah
>>>> Arendt
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Fri, 5/6/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
>>>> > Subject: i was stunned
>>>> > To: alex.stein at talk21.com
>>>> > Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 7:10 AM
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > hello sir,
>>>> >
>>>> > i went thru. your article about 'jeuish-kashmiri dialogue group
>>>> > honestly i was stunned.
>>>> > i believe you have been told absoluetly wrong history.
>>>> >
>>>> >  do you know how much these kashmiri hindus have suffered at the hands
>>>> of
>>>> > muslims in kashmir?
>>>> >
>>>> > hindusthan is the only country which gave shelter to people of your
>>>> > religion whole heartedly that was because hindusthan is a hindu
>>>> dominated
>>>> > country.
>>>> > i really wonder how can you try to befriend muslims, basically how can
>>>> you
>>>> > trust them? have you people not suffered at the hands of muslims?
>>>> > have you not heard about 'muslim brotherhood'?
>>>> > rightnow, you may think that muslims in kashmir were friendly with you
>>>> > hence they are nice. but are you sure that when you fight with other
>>>> muslim
>>>> > countries, these same kashmiri friends of yours will support you
>>>> against the
>>>> > latter?
>>>> >
>>>> > i sincerely feel, hindus, and not muslims  can be your natural allies.
>>>> >
>>>> > vedavati
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