[Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned
Vedavati Jogi
vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 10 10:21:14 IST 2009
thank you mr. malik for this mail. i know you are not a pseudo-secular, 'liberal' or 'thinker' etc.
still you did not like the idea of throwing muslims out of this country.
this is the difference between hindus & muslims! trust me i wanted to prove this to all.
majority of muslims in pakistan or bangladesh, kashmir even india, don't show this magnonimity towards hindus. i have not seen any muslim leader caring for hindu migrants from kashmir.
yet sickulars in india keep talking about 'sufferings of muslims in india'
this continuous hindubashing is responsible for creating gulf between citizens of different faiths in india .
i am not a religious fanatic, i would never want to throw any common citizen (irrespective of his or her faith) to be thrown out of this country. i possess great respect for dr. kalam, i just loved rafi, madhubala, i love to listen to jakir hussain's tabla and like to watch irfan pathan's game. list is very big!
vedavati
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, A.K. Malik <akmalik45 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: A.K. Malik <akmalik45 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned
To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Sarai List" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 1:36 PM
Dear Vedvatiji,
I am normally a critcizer of Hindu bashing but I find this to be strange. What has Pakistan to do with Indian Muslims, they are Indian citizens as we are and have the same rights as we have? And who has given this power to Balasaheb Thakre to send Indian Citizens to Pakistan? It is a different matter if some are willing to go on their own accord and Pakistan is ready to accept them.If the same is being done to Indians in Australia and North America why are we then troubled.
In this Globalised world, such a thinking will definitely bring another partition.
I find the Press to be also responsible for bringing such a division amongst citizens. Newspaper headings:
"A Woman and DALIT becomes speaker for the first time"
"Vahanvati is first MUSLIM Attorney General" Today's Times of India Front Page
The emphasis is not the MERIT which has brought them to these levels, it is on Dalit and Muslim as if they have become eligible only now or they have been appointed as if the requirement was for a Dalit and a Muslim and no merit was required.That is one reason I am against reservations of any kind. The help/assistance needs only to be given for grooming.
(A.K.MALIK)
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned
> To: "Venugopalan K M" <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>
> Cc: reader-list at sarai.net
> Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 7:07 PM
> i don't speak for hindus,
> i care for my nation!
> this socalled philosophy of secularism and liberalism
> is dividing the nation and disarming hindus
> and i can't see my country being partitioned again .
>
> once balasaheb thakare had said, if pakistan wants kashmir
> (because kashmir is a muslim majority state) then they will
> have to accept 20 crore muslim refugees from india too.
>
> i support this statement.
>
> vedavati
> --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Venugopalan K M <kmvenuannur at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Fw: Re: i was stunned
> To: "sarai-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 3:38 PM
>
>
> Ignorance may be bliss; arrogance might be bliss as well,
> at least until
> someone gets held up for rash assumptions on others..
> However, certain manifestations of ignorance plus arrogance
> are better to be
> left as they are; I believe that will be healthy for people
> on both sides of
> the divide..
> Feel no temptation to dispute the contents here;
> but who are you to speak for the entire Hindus in India,any
> way?
>
> Peace and love,
> Venu.
>
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > good -that israel govt did not listen to you and
> returned socalled occupied
> > territories to palestinians. i never knew that there
> are pseudo seculars in
> > israel too (like india)
> >
> > you feel govt. of india should give autonomy to
> kashmir, are you aware that
> > kashmiri hindus have been thrown out of kashmir?
> > do you find muslims so trustworthy that in autonomous,
> muslims dominated
> > state hindus can remain safe?
> >
> > whole pakistan is a muslim occupied india, are you
> aware of that?
> >
> > vedavati
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
> > To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 2:58 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. I think we should return the Occupied Territories
> (West Bank, Gaza, East
> > Jerusalem) to the Palestinian people.
> >
> > 2. I never said I speak for Kashmir.
> >
> > 3. I think the valley should be autonomous (nobody
> should be removed from
> > their homes).
> >
> > 4. That is for you and Pakistan to decide over the
> course - hopefully one
> > day - of peace negotiations.
> >
> > A
> >
> >
> > falsedichotomies.com
> >
> > "The most radical and the only secure form of
> possession is destruction,
> > for only what we have destroyed is safely and forever
> ours." Hannah Arendt
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
> > To: "Alex Stein" <alex.stein at talk21.com>
> > Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 7:38 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hello alex,
> > 1) will you give part of your country to any other
> nation?
> > 2) who has given you right to speak for kashmir?
> > 3) if kashmir is given to muslims what about those
> hindus who have been
> > living there since last thousand years?
> > 4) will you dare to tell pakistan to give our land
> back?
> > vedavati
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/6/09, Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Alex Stein <alex.stein at talk21.com>
> > Subject: Re: i was stunned
> > To: "Vedavati Jogi" <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> > Date: Sunday, 7 June, 2009, 2:27 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Vedavti,
> > Thanks for your email.
> > We are not standing in opposition to Hindus. I deeply
> love India, its
> > culture and its people. I believe, though, that the
> Kashmir people have a
> > right to self-determination, just like anyone else,
> and I believe that it is
> > in India's interest to grant it to them, at least when
> the time is right.
> > Best wishes,
> > Alex Stein
> >
> > PS - you may be interested in my blog of my travels in
> India last summer -
> > wanderingsatlan.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > falsedichotomies.com
> >
> > "The most radical and the only secure form of
> possession is destruction,
> > for only what we have destroyed is safely and forever
> ours." Hannah Arendt
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/6/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: i was stunned
> > To: alex.stein at talk21.com
> > Date: Friday, 5 June, 2009, 7:10 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hello sir,
> >
> > i went thru. your article about 'jeuish-kashmiri
> dialogue group
> > honestly i was stunned.
> > i believe you have been told absoluetly wrong
> history.
> >
> > do you know how much these kashmiri hindus have
> suffered at the hands of
> > muslims in kashmir?
> >
> > hindusthan is the only country which gave shelter to
> people of your
> > religion whole heartedly that was because hindusthan
> is a hindu dominated
> > country.
> > i really wonder how can you try to befriend muslims,
> basically how can you
> > trust them? have you people not suffered at the hands
> of muslims?
> > have you not heard about 'muslim brotherhood'?
> > rightnow, you may think that muslims in kashmir were
> friendly with you
> > hence they are nice. but are you sure that when you
> fight with other muslim
> > countries, these same kashmiri friends of yours will
> support you against the
> > latter?
> >
> > i sincerely feel, hindus, and not muslims can be
> your natural allies.
> >
> > vedavati
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