[Reader-list] FW: Hindu families in Pakistan feel scared, India grants Visa

[taraprakash]

Dear Taha and all.
I am not sure how fair it is to say that since X was thief, y too was a 
thief. Taha seems to have perfected the art of forcing Y in to discourse of 
X so that the discourse of x gets sidelined, not necessarily intentionally.
May be Hindu Maha Sabha, PLO, KKK, ANC, DMK, LTTE, WHO, UNCTARD, and all 
other possible social or political formations are bull shit, but still they 
are not the same. Different bulls produce different kind of shit.

I also fail to understand why would you ask an individual if his/her 
position on an issue will remain unchanged. One may read a bit and evolve 
one's position. May be one gets more radical and call the "independence 
movement" pig shit. Does it help the discussion in any way asking if 
Sandeep's position will change?

Coming to independence of India, I wish you had added some rationale to 
assume that we became a just society after "independence" (when you say that 
British rule was unjust).
Regards
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taha Mehmood" <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>
To: "Sandeep" <vashsand at hotmail.com>
Cc: "reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: Hindu families in Pakistan feel scared,India 
grants Visa


> Dear Sandeep
>
> Thank you for your mail.
>
> I do not resent you having personal opinions, after all we are free 
> country
> and people have a right to have personal opinions but I do resent people
> articulating their personal opinions as truisms on a public list. So I beg
> your pardon because I do not think that a) whole Independence movement was
> bullshit, b)been better they were still part of british empire and c) 
> maybe
> we would hv acheived same kind of status like aussies and canadians by 
> now.
>
> Reason being rather obvious- it was an unjust rule.
>
> And I am glad that it was over long before I was born and were it to 
> happen
> again I will be more than happy to resist it. Insofar as arguments over
> Nandy's position are concerned, I think the best person to answer these
> questions would be Nandy himself.
>
> Let me add that I am truly charmed by your clarity of thought and insight.
> Can we on the reader-list assume that for all times to come, your position
> on issues related to independence would be consistent i.e.'independence
> movement was bullshit'.
>
> Even if according to you,  we consider the Independence movement as
> 'bullshit' then should we also consider all other social configurations,
> ideas, propositions emanating as complementary strands to the independent
> movement as 'bullshit?  For instance, the Hindu mahasabha or the RSS etc
> were such propositions, could we consider these social reactions to
> contemporary socio-political thought as 'bullshit' too?
>
> Or should we go by your caveat and ignore your 'bullshit' as merely a
> 'daydream' and carry on?
>
> Warm regards
>
> Taha
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