[Reader-list] Election Forecast

Sat May 16 23:02:23 IST 2009

Friends,

It doesn't matter weather  BJP win or loose, even if hindutva advocates are
trying to hide behind the " Acceptance of their defeat by senior leaders, i
strongly urge you guys to please please start campaigns to make Advani Ji
the Next PM,  ( specially the e- propaganda expert ) after so many years of
hard work he deserves to be the PM.( even if he does not qualify for the
nationalist logic)
And if it is not possible atleast try to make his image clearer by raising
other debates of who is more stronger and more suitable  so  that at least
his supporters can believe that his soul  will rest in peace.

Three cheers  ! for Mazboot Neta and Nirnayak Sarkar, and the *waner sena
!!!*

Yunus

On 5/16/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i never vote for congress or bjp
> i am neither a right wing nor a left wing person
>
> i vote for bharat i vote for hindutva
> i speak whatever (i feel)  is good for my nation
>
> as i have already said, i am a narrow minded nationalist
> i don't understand 'vasudhaiva kutumbakam' (because i know other countries
> will not even allow me to enter their boundaries if i don't have their
> visas.)
>
> i can't compete with broad minded seculars like you in this aspect.
>
> by the way i don't have any gains on this list as mentioned by you.
>
> vedavati
> - On Sat, 16/5/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Election Forecast
> To: "sarai list" <>
> Date: Saturday, 16 May, 2009, 10:11 PM
>
>
> im shocked ... suddenly our right wing friends have found a new ally in
> congress:
>
> Vedavati (while maintaining: "and last but not least, bjp did not try to
> 'unify' hindus. if they do so in coming 5 years' span, they will definitely
> bounce back in 2014") has said:
> "congress has given new young faces while bjp has presented same faces -no
> new young leader except varun gandhi. (i think there are better examples
> here for you provided you knew Ritesh Vasava contesting from Surat)
>
> bjp has talked about old issues like ram mandir for which they have already
> lost their credibility."
>
> and now Bipin:
> "Also sign of maturity by public to elect main national party and that way
> avoiding black mailing from pseudo-secularists like left, lalu, paswan,
> mayavati, mulayam and so many."
>
> Can you guys be little less shallow? Or you still as someone recently
> pointed, are deciding on who is secular and pseudo-secular (at times, using
> the phrase "sickular") for your petty gains on this reader's list. But on
> second thoughts, your admissions have a tinge of honesty in it, which is
> why
> i am citing it on this mail. hope we dont have an election for next five
> years.
>
> regards and best wishes
>
> anupam
>
>
> On 5/16/09, bipin <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All.
> >
> > People verdict is final and one should accept gracefully. The point
> raised
> > that PM is not elected is right. But, he personally is good man and that
> > appeals to the people.
> >
> > Also sign of maturity by public to elect main national party and that way
> > avoiding black mailing from pseudo-secularists like left, lalu, paswan,
> > mayavati, mulayam and so many. With majority lots of money will be saved,
> > which was going to hand of this much more corrupt people.
> >
> > NREGA was not congress baby really it was imposed by left, but even left
> > lost heavily. RTI was ongoing process and initiated earlier by NDA.
> Please
> > refer parliament proceedings you will come to know.
> >
> > Still I believe that NREGA will prove failure in the near future. No one
> in
> > politics has long vision and they want to gain short coverings only and
> > many
> > people will not understand immediately. Time will prove it. Wait n watch.
> > For long development, root infrastructural development is the only better
> > solution.
> >
> > thanks
> > Bipin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "swathi shivanand" <swathi.shivanand at gmail.com>
> > To: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Election Forecast
> >
> >
> > > Firstly, all victory must be tempered with some sobriety. And difficult
> > > questions have to be asked.
> > >
> > > We are going to have, yet another time, a prime minister who has not
> > > contested elections. if his record were impeccable, one wonders why he
> > > chose
> > > not to stand? One could easily dismiss the idea that 'he was scared
> that
> > > he
> > > would lose" as understandably naive. So what is that had the prime
> > > ministerial candidate not contest elections? Should we wonder what that
> > > says
> > > about his (and by extension the congress' and the upa's) notions about
> > > democracy and respect for it?
> > >
> > > To nuance your point further, The NREGA and the RTI were passed after
> > much
> > > prodding and much civil society activism. If the UPA is credited with
> > > bringing in these programmes and policies, some credit is also due to
> the
> > > Left and other Congress allies.
> > >
> > > Swathi
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear all
> > >>
> > >> The BJP and the Left have been shown the middle finger in these
> > >> elections.
> > >> And for all those in the forum who keep dismissing the Congress, do
> > >> dismiss
> > >> dynastic politics, but realize that NREGA, RTI and Right to Forest
> Land
> > >> for
> > >> tribals are important for the 'aam aadmi', so also other issues of
> > >> livelihood, not your Golden Quadrilateral, economic disinvestment and
> > >> Narendra Modi-Advani duo's 'strong leadership'.
> > >>
> > >> Concentrate on that. Otherwise keep seeing the middle finger shown by
> > the
> > >> rest of India to you too.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Rakesh
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