[Reader-list] Election Forecast

[Aditya Raj Kaul]

You seem tired Mr. Syed Yunus. The defeatist attitude in your e-mail tells
another tale.

Advani ji atleast became Deputy PM and Home Minister. Wonder if you are a
member of UPSC or Minority Commission taking decision on qualification of a
prospective PM ? Don't lose heart friend. There will be another bright day
soon.

Did I see a leftist jholahwallah running for cover somewhere down the street
? Ah!

Good Night

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Syed Yunus <delhi.yunus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Friends,
>
> It doesn't matter weather  BJP win or loose, even if hindutva advocates are
> trying to hide behind the " Acceptance of their defeat by senior leaders, i
> strongly urge you guys to please please start campaigns to make Advani Ji
> the Next PM,  ( specially the e- propaganda expert ) after so many years of
> hard work he deserves to be the PM.( even if he does not qualify for the
> nationalist logic)
> And if it is not possible atleast try to make his image clearer by raising
> other debates of who is more stronger and more suitable  so  that at least
> his supporters can believe that his soul  will rest in peace.
>
> Three cheers  ! for Mazboot Neta and Nirnayak Sarkar, and the *waner sena
> !!!*
>
> Yunus
>
>
> On 5/16/09, Vedavati Jogi <vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > i never vote for congress or bjp
> > i am neither a right wing nor a left wing person
> >
> > i vote for bharat i vote for hindutva
> > i speak whatever (i feel)  is good for my nation
> >
> > as i have already said, i am a narrow minded nationalist
> > i don't understand 'vasudhaiva kutumbakam' (because i know other
> countries
> > will not even allow me to enter their boundaries if i don't have their
> > visas.)
> >
> > i can't compete with broad minded seculars like you in this aspect.
> >
> > by the way i don't have any gains on this list as mentioned by you.
> >
> > vedavati
> > - On Sat, 16/5/09, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Election Forecast
> > To: "sarai list" <>
> > Date: Saturday, 16 May, 2009, 10:11 PM
> >
> >
> > im shocked ... suddenly our right wing friends have found a new ally in
> > congress:
> >
> > Vedavati (while maintaining: "and last but not least, bjp did not try to
> > 'unify' hindus. if they do so in coming 5 years' span, they will
> definitely
> > bounce back in 2014") has said:
> > "congress has given new young faces while bjp has presented same faces
> -no
> > new young leader except varun gandhi. (i think there are better examples
> > here for you provided you knew Ritesh Vasava contesting from Surat)
> >
> > bjp has talked about old issues like ram mandir for which they have
> already
> > lost their credibility."
> >
> > and now Bipin:
> > "Also sign of maturity by public to elect main national party and that
> way
> > avoiding black mailing from pseudo-secularists like left, lalu, paswan,
> > mayavati, mulayam and so many."
> >
> > Can you guys be little less shallow? Or you still as someone recently
> > pointed, are deciding on who is secular and pseudo-secular (at times,
> using
> > the phrase "sickular") for your petty gains on this reader's list. But on
> > second thoughts, your admissions have a tinge of honesty in it, which is
> > why
> > i am citing it on this mail. hope we dont have an election for next five
> > years.
> >
> > regards and best wishes
> >
> > anupam
> >
> >
> > On 5/16/09, bipin <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All.
> > >
> > > People verdict is final and one should accept gracefully. The point
> > raised
> > > that PM is not elected is right. But, he personally is good man and
> that
> > > appeals to the people.
> > >
> > > Also sign of maturity by public to elect main national party and that
> way
> > > avoiding black mailing from pseudo-secularists like left, lalu, paswan,
> > > mayavati, mulayam and so many. With majority lots of money will be
> saved,
> > > which was going to hand of this much more corrupt people.
> > >
> > > NREGA was not congress baby really it was imposed by left, but even
> left
> > > lost heavily. RTI was ongoing process and initiated earlier by NDA.
> > Please
> > > refer parliament proceedings you will come to know.
> > >
> > > Still I believe that NREGA will prove failure in the near future. No
> one
> > in
> > > politics has long vision and they want to gain short coverings only and
> > > many
> > > people will not understand immediately. Time will prove it. Wait n
> watch.
> > > For long development, root infrastructural development is the only
> better
> > > solution.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > > Bipin
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "swathi shivanand" <swathi.shivanand at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:42 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Election Forecast
> > >
> > >
> > > > Firstly, all victory must be tempered with some sobriety. And
> difficult
> > > > questions have to be asked.
> > > >
> > > > We are going to have, yet another time, a prime minister who has not
> > > > contested elections. if his record were impeccable, one wonders why
> he
> > > > chose
> > > > not to stand? One could easily dismiss the idea that 'he was scared
> > that
> > > > he
> > > > would lose" as understandably naive. So what is that had the prime
> > > > ministerial candidate not contest elections? Should we wonder what
> that
> > > > says
> > > > about his (and by extension the congress' and the upa's) notions
> about
> > > > democracy and respect for it?
> > > >
> > > > To nuance your point further, The NREGA and the RTI were passed after
> > > much
> > > > prodding and much civil society activism. If the UPA is credited with
> > > > bringing in these programmes and policies, some credit is also due to
> > the
> > > > Left and other Congress allies.
> > > >
> > > > Swathi
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Dear all
> > > >>
> > > >> The BJP and the Left have been shown the middle finger in these
> > > >> elections.
> > > >> And for all those in the forum who keep dismissing the Congress, do
> > > >> dismiss
> > > >> dynastic politics, but realize that NREGA, RTI and Right to Forest
> > Land
> > > >> for
> > > >> tribals are important for the 'aam aadmi', so also other issues of
> > > >> livelihood, not your Golden Quadrilateral, economic disinvestment
> and
> > > >> Narendra Modi-Advani duo's 'strong leadership'.
> > > >>
> > > >> Concentrate on that. Otherwise keep seeing the middle finger shown
> by
> > > the
> > > >> rest of India to you too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> Rakesh
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