[Reader-list] Love Jihad- A New Phrase Being Added to Lexicon of Hate Politics!

Pawan Durani pawan.durani at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 17:22:12 IST 2009


Hindu, Sikh bodies demand restoration of kidnaped girl to parents

Excelsior Correspondent

JAMMU/SRINAGAR, Nov 1: The prominent members of Sikh and Hindu
community today expressed grave concern over the kidnapping of a Sikh
girl at Bemina Srinagar and her forcible conversion to Islam. They
outrightly denied the reports that the girl had eloped willingly with
the Muslim youth.

Talking to mediapersons here S Mohinder Singh president Shiromani
Akali Dal (Badal), S Charanjit Singh Khalsa, state secretary, BJP,
incharge Kashmir, Mohinder Pal Singh Pandu, Virender Jit Singh,
chairman National Sikh Front, S Kuldeep Singh of Sikh Missionary, S
Narinder Singh Nana, ex president AISSF, Pawan Kohli of Sangarsh
Samiti and Rajesh Kesri accused the administration and police of
siding with the kidnappers.

Apprehending foul play by administration and police Khalsa said that
girl’s parents were not allowed to meet her who is in Women’ Cell at
Srinagar. Even the three Sikh women cops who were posted in the
Women’s Cell have been shifted from there under a conspiracy, he
added.

Demanding that the girl along with her parents be shifted to Jammu
under security, Mohinder Singh said that the girl has been threatened
that if she gives a statement against her kidnapper her parents will
be gunned down.

Giving an ultimatum of shifting the girl to Jammu within 24 hours, he
warned that in case Government failed to restore the girl to her
parents the entire Sikh and Hindu community will come to streets in
Jammu.

Meanwhile Sikh Sangat Kashmir (SSK), an amalgam of various Sikh
organizations of the Valley today warned that they will observe
symbolic protest on the birth anniversary of Guru Nanak Dev Ji against
the marriage of a local Sikh woman with a Muslim youth recently.

Talking to mediapersons here today, provincial president Shiromani
Akali Dal (Badal) Charan Singh Bali said the Sikhs of Valley have
decided to observe symbolic protest on the birth anniversary of Guru
Nanak Dev Ji tomorrow.

Bali said the Sikh community of the Valley was shocked over the
unreligious and social happenings as local Sikh girl had married a
Muslim youth after converting to Islam. The members of Sikh community
will wear black badges at the various gurudwaras of the Valley in
protest. However, he said the community will not take out
demonstrations as "we appeal to the Sikh masses of the State to remain
cool and calm at this testing time".


On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com> wrote:
> wow, now we have an indian concept of choosing our partners..i dont
> know what it means. i mean what can one do if, miya and biwa are
> razzi. as for the murders of women, would you call jack the ripper --
> the first love jehadist?
>
> you know what Hindu men can do who are heartbroken as it sounds like
> from what most of the people are talking about it. they should join
> FOSLA (Frustrated One Sided Lovers' Association). All Indian towns and
> cities have this club. what do u say?
>
> -Anupam
>
> On 11/2/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Sudeep
>>
>> I am sorry,  but I have lost the habit of  making mockery (by using sarcasm)
>> of someone else's statements to prove my point, at least to an extent.
>> Having said that, my response (as this was for my mail, as opposed to
>> Shuddha's or someone else's):
>>
>> 1) First, while I do know about this so-called 'envy factor', I am not a
>> part of it. That way, I have to start envying other boys as well (be it
>> Hindu/Muslim/Christian). And that way I won't have any girl to marry. And I
>> have better things in life than to worry about this.
>>
>> So I request you not to make generalized presumptions like this.
>>
>> 2) I don't know about Aamir, but I heard from some friends that Shahrukh's
>> in-laws did have an issue, and he had to sort that out. Anyways, it's not
>> for me to comment.
>>
>> And as for Hindu in-laws having or not-having an issue, it's more due to
>> social fear/pressure and religious propaganda ingrained into human beings
>> which ensures that inter-caste or inter-religious marriages are opposed.
>>
>> I have one more request to make: If you wish to say that what I have said is
>> known to you already, please don't denigrate it or make fun of it.
>>
>> 3) You are referring to a 'veiled threat' which I made. I only wish to say
>> that the existence of the VHP is a reality and not a bad dream, so people
>> should be careful of it. What has to be done is organize not only a larger
>> debate across the society towards acceptance of inter-religious and
>> inter-caste marriages, but the understanding of the opposition towards these
>> and putting forth points and reasons as to why these can/can't be accepted.
>>
>> That's the only way to counter the VHP propaganda, as opposed to ignoring
>> them. After all, we ignore a lot of things, the police fake encounters, the
>> corruption around us, and other wrong things. What's the use finally? It's
>> ultimately we who suffer, right?
>>
>> In that sense, if it's a veiled threat, yes, unfortunate though it is,
>> that's what I mean.
>>
>> 4) Yes, the statement which sounded baseless to you was based on an
>> assumption, which I had stated later. I request you to read this as well,
>> which I sent later (as reply to Mr. Venu):
>>
>> *You are right. I should have made it clear in my reply that I have assumed
>> for once that the reports are true. Of course, they can be baseless. And
>> considering how the Indian police operates, they can be certainly baseless.
>> Hence, my apologies for the same.*
>>
>> 5) It's not me who assumes that women are objects. Continuing with the
>> assumption I made (which is false and baseless in your words, and I accept),
>> I made the other arguments. And considering that we have a patriarchal
>> society, I made the argument that it's the girls who will be seduced, for
>> this would further instigate communal trouble, and achieve the objectives
>> the jihadis in mind.
>>
>> However, since you have put the article stating that my assumption is
>> baseless, this doesn't come at all into the picture. But then again, I had
>> already stated that my assumption could be baseless or wrong.
>>
>> Hence, I request you to kindly read the previous mails as well before
>> replying, and also promise I will also take care before making assumptions.
>> While believing in something passionately is fine, sarcasm and anger never
>> help in discussions or mails.  (That's what I have come to learn on Sarai at
>> least).
>>
>> I also thank you, for putting the article you sent. I have already read it.
>>
>> With love
>>
>> Rakesh
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