[Reader-list] Love Jihad- A New Phrase Being Added to Lexicon of Hate Politics!Dear

[Venugopalan K M]

Dear Rajesh,
Lot of if s and but s in your post..!..
Your post seems to be ambiguous on whether 'love jihad' exists.
My understanding is that as a strategy for escalating state
terrorism,it could exist as created by the agents of state, and not by
the any jihadist..
I would argue that  the real lives of loving couples are gravely
threatened and  distorted by this malicious propaganda.
 For democratic initiatives at least on the conceptual level, there is
not much time left to be ambivalent about this
Regards,.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Venu (and all)
>
> My response:
>
> 1) You are right. I should have made it clear in my reply that I have
> assumed for once that the reports are true. Of course, they can be baseless.
> And considering how the Indian police operates, they can be certainly
> baseless. Hence, my apologies for the same.
>
> However, assuming they are true, they can't be a justification of the fact
> that such a jihad is fine. Just because people use love as a mechanism to
> get people to do jihad, which would be basically mindless killing of people
> to obtain objectives which were and are not going to be fulfilled anytime,
> is horrendous and deserves all condemnation it can get.
>
> The fact that love could be used to do such a shameful thing makes me feel
> even more angry about it. If I love someone, I would be ready to die for
> her/him. But here are jihadis, who can potentially kill people to express
> their love for someone.
>
> Should such a jihad, even theoretically speaking, be supported? Isn't it
> equivalent to saying that since Naxals fight for the right causes, let's
> support them irrespectively of their means? And here the language of love
> itself is being denigrated.
>
> 2) I may have agreed to a love marriage between two people because of an
> externalized secular ethos before March 2008, but being someone who has been
> in love and continues to experience it, I have grown tired of the secularism
> idea itself.  I support it because love is more important than religion.
>
> Probably people should go and try to find their own love. If the BJP can't
> love someone because they feel ashamed about it (being against their version
> of the Indian culture), or if people on this forum can't find their love
> because they are married (and they don't get it from their marriages as
> well), that's a different state of matters.
>
> When it comes to two human beings, damn the world, damn the nation state,
> they love each other, they should be allowed to express it, celebrate it and
> live with it. Nobody should have the right to stop that, whoever they may
> be, Dalits, Muslims, Brahmins, Chettiars,  anyone. Even animals. It's no
> business of a mullah or swami or a khap panchayat to declare marriages or
> love as illegal. If it pains them, let them boycott me or anybody. I have no
> issues. But they have no right to stop my marriage (or me loving someone)
> with someone just because that someone is not from my religion. If they have
> that much of a problem, they are free not to talk to me. I hardly care.
>
> When all this talk about love is being done, just think of someone you love.
> You will realize secularism is not required to support inter religious
> marriages, love alone is enough. Where secularism can't reach, love can.
>
> But don't go about preaching it. It comes naturally. What's required is to
> get a fair sense of what's right and what's not, and people can obey that
> without having a sense of love for each other. Love is not a substitute for
> the sense of fairness. Love can help in attaining that, not the one to
> replace that. Keep that in mind.
>
> Of course, we can do with more love creation as opposed to more bomb
> creation. On that, nobody can disagree here.
>
> Rakesh
>
>
>



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