[Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE

Tue Apr 13 15:17:15 IST 2010

Dear Bipin Ji,

It would be interesting to know how 'they' define NATION.

Pawan

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> Thanks for your compliments and describing me as enemy of the nation. God
> bless you.
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> From: anupam chakravartty [mailto:c.anupam at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:53 PM
> To: Bipin Trivedi; sarai list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
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> Bipin,
>
> It is has been only Mr Narendra Modi, the Chief Minister of Gujarat, who
> thinks that anything being said against BJP Gujarat or BJP-ruled government
> is against Gujarati people. Gujarat has more people than you think you know,
> Bipin. Hence, your statement also proves that you do not know anything about
> the glory of Gujarat. Your very sense of Gujarat begins with Modi and ends
> with Modi. There are documented evidences since 2002 pogrom that it was Mr
> Modi in his speech and actions have been accusing everyone for tarnishing
> the image of Gujarat. As a political leader, if he feels so, he has every
> right to engage in such a discourse. But the fact, that there are parallel
> political discourses in Gujarat that cannot be undermined and I am sure when
> they voice their concerns about state government or its organs, they are not
> tarnishing its image but working towards a better, a more tolerant and a
> democratic Gujarat.
>
> You have been abashedly using this slogan about Gujarat's image being
> tarnished as if you have inherited the legacy of this state. When a certain
> section of people demand their rights or hope for justice, you cannot twist
> it and turn it against its own people by deeming their protests as a move to
> tarnish the image of Gujarat. When people from Vapi in South Gujarat or
> Ankleshwar voice their concerns about pollution, these are residents of
> these areas who suffer from it. It is Manish Tandel, the fisherman, AND NOT
> ME OR YOU who has to go all the way to Porbander from Navsari, even though
> sea is on his backyard. For Tandel, finding his catch is his only concern
> more than the risk of getting kidnapped by Somali pirates in the high seas
> or straying on to the waters of Pakistan or his dinghy washed away by
> torrential storms. Have you wondered why thousands of fishermen from Navsari
> and Valsad district have to go 800 kilometres every six months to Porbander?
>
>
> Iqbal Hasan Mamdu, visually impaired since birth has spent eight years
> inside a prison -- first accused as a terrorist for burning a train, then
> when POTA was repealed now waiting for his trial. When Modi says there are
> no jails in India fit for him to be imprisoned, he is right. The jails in
> Gujarat, as admitted by Gujarat Home Minister, Amit Shah, himself on the
> floor of the Gujarat State Assembly, are overcrowded with prisoners.
>
> Eight years back, on Feb 27, when Satish Mishra's wife was exhumed by the
> flames of fire of a train, that allegedly changed the course of history for
> Gujarat, health officials could not confirm if his wife was missing or dead.
> While, local VHP offices immediately branded her as a martyr, a karsevak
> from Ayodhya and put her posters in their offices. Was it Mishra's decision
> to send his daughter from Vadodara to Sultanpur in UP to spend rest of her
> childhood with her grandparents, while he waited for one fact finding
> commission after the another to confirm his exact statement as an eyewitness
> of the tragedy?
>
> What happens to Member of Gujarat Legislative Assembly, Kanu Kalsaria? He is
> very much a part of the BJP when he raised objections to a privately owned
> detergent manufacturing plant being set up in his village because that would
> take all the water meant for the animals and people. Is he tarnishing the
> image of Gujarat by raising objection to the construction of a industry?
>
> Actually, what is your fascination with image Bipin? you and Pawan Durani
> have been harping about this one elusive thing called image. Do you mean to
> say, the seeming is true and what does not appear is not? Your politics is
> such that it will only touch on the issues which are seemingly existent, but
> about the issues which have been pushed under the carpet, it can wait and
> rot.
>
> Although, now I do not have a home per se, I grew up in this little town in
> Assam the north eastern part of India. There was a point of time, when about
> 70 extremist groups were operating from that region organising protests,
> bomb blasts, bandhs, killings on an everyday basis. So much happened in
> these areas that three generation of youths misguided by their own ideals
> and cheated by an extremely corrupt government making money through
> security-terror apparatus. Some said there were Chinese training north
> eastern youths, others said it was the lack of development. Do you think it
> was the lack of development that forced Assamese youths to take up arms
> against the state? This is coming from a state, where the first oil refinery
> and an already existing tea industry was there before India got
> independence. So was it degeneration in a phased manner adopted by
> successive governments in Assam that lead to this insurgency? And now when I
> say this, you will say i am tarnishing the image of north eastern states.
>
> People like you are the enemies of the nation, who are ready to do cover ups
> for any political outfit at the slight provocation.
>
> Anupam
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> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
> Bhagalpur massacre didn't tarnish the image of Bihar, Shikh killing didn't
> tarnish the image of Delhi/India, Mumbai bomb blast followed by the riots
> didn't tarnished the image of Mumbai/Maharashtra. These are few can be
> listed many such more, but only Gujarat riots tarnished the image of
> Gujarat!!! For argument also normally everyone use Gujarat name only.
>
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> However, this much hatred of Gujarat will not at all affect its development
> and prosperity, since Gujarati's are very soft and sober and never show
> hatred for anyone.
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>
> Thanks
>
> Bipin
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> From: Rakesh Iyer [mailto:rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:35 AM
> To: Bipin Trivedi
> Cc: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi; sarai-list
>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
>
>
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> It seems Modi has got further additions to his list of those who want to
> brag about the 'image of Gujarat'. Anyways, the very same Modi didn't
> realize that post-Godhra pogrom also tarnished the image of Gujarat.
>
> Rakesh
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dear Rajen for your consent and views.
>
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> From: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi [mailto:rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM
> To: Bipin Trivedi
> Cc: sarai-list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
>
>
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> Bipin,
>
> you have hit where it really sticks out, media men and women seem to have
> strange hate for Narendra Modi and very affectionate love for Sonia, in the
> process, the more the hate is spread, the voters in Gujarath are giving
> thumbs up to Modi, and for sure, they know best, as they have seen the
> governance rendered by the Nehru, his minions later, India the india and her
> Rajiv and now Sonia and her minions.!
>
> regards,
>
> Rajen.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
> Forwarding herewith reply received from Indira Hirway against my objection
> for her article in the Hindu.
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> From: Indira Hirway [mailto:indira_hirway at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:01 AM
> To: Bipin Trivedi
> Subject: Re: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
>
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> Dear Mr. Bipin Trivedi,
>
>
>
> I was away and therefore seen your mail only today. It is an interesting
> mail!
>
> I do not know you, but it will be nice to talk. Can we meet or talk?  My
> mobile is                        . I am located in Ahmedabad.
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> Best wishes,
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> Indira Hirway
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>
> --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
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> From: Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> Subject: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> To: bleditor at thehindu.co.in
> Cc: ndira.hirway at cfda.ac.in, Indira_hirway at yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 4:51 PM
>
> The Editor
>
> Hindu Business Line
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> I refer to article by Dr. Indira Hirway in Hindu Business Line on Gujarat
> economy sustains growth; human development index falls Feb. 25, 2010.
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> You are mentioning report of the period 1993 to 2005 in 2010 and
> highlighting the issue. Do you have current figure or figure upto March 2009
> of the same or even upto March 2008? How can you highlight 4 years old news?
> Gujarat has much changed thereafter. Please be updated and publish
> accordingly.
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> Gujarat is on very much development path even in the HDI parameters also.
> Please search latest figure and publish accordingly and stop tarnishing
> Gujarat image just because Narendra Modi will not get credit. I am not
> belonging to any political party and not fan of Narendra Modi but I am fan
> of development, whoever does it.
>
>
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> Actually you are indirectly helping Narendra Modi popularity in Gujarati
> people by repeating attempts of tarnishing Gujarat image.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bipin Trivedi
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> Rajen.
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