[Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE

Tue Apr 13 15:23:48 IST 2010

Pawan Durrani and Bipin Trivedi,

Either you take it or leave it. No more discussions with you both. If you
have the guts, trying answering certain questions that has been posed to
you.

Moreover, both of you have committed treason against people of gujarat by
hiding their real issues. i appeal the list members to boycott your posts
here.

Anupam

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Bipin Ji,
>
> It would be interesting to know how 'they' define NATION.
>
> Pawan
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> > Thanks for your compliments and describing me as enemy of the nation. God
> > bless you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: anupam chakravartty [mailto:c.anupam at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:53 PM
> > To: Bipin Trivedi; sarai list
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> >
> >
> >
> > Bipin,
> >
> > It is has been only Mr Narendra Modi, the Chief Minister of Gujarat, who
> > thinks that anything being said against BJP Gujarat or BJP-ruled
> government
> > is against Gujarati people. Gujarat has more people than you think you
> know,
> > Bipin. Hence, your statement also proves that you do not know anything
> about
> > the glory of Gujarat. Your very sense of Gujarat begins with Modi and
> ends
> > with Modi. There are documented evidences since 2002 pogrom that it was
> Mr
> > Modi in his speech and actions have been accusing everyone for tarnishing
> > the image of Gujarat. As a political leader, if he feels so, he has every
> > right to engage in such a discourse. But the fact, that there are
> parallel
> > political discourses in Gujarat that cannot be undermined and I am sure
> when
> > they voice their concerns about state government or its organs, they are
> not
> > tarnishing its image but working towards a better, a more tolerant and a
> > democratic Gujarat.
> >
> > You have been abashedly using this slogan about Gujarat's image being
> > tarnished as if you have inherited the legacy of this state. When a
> certain
> > section of people demand their rights or hope for justice, you cannot
> twist
> > it and turn it against its own people by deeming their protests as a move
> to
> > tarnish the image of Gujarat. When people from Vapi in South Gujarat or
> > Ankleshwar voice their concerns about pollution, these are residents of
> > these areas who suffer from it. It is Manish Tandel, the fisherman, AND
> NOT
> > ME OR YOU who has to go all the way to Porbander from Navsari, even
> though
> > sea is on his backyard. For Tandel, finding his catch is his only concern
> > more than the risk of getting kidnapped by Somali pirates in the high
> seas
> > or straying on to the waters of Pakistan or his dinghy washed away by
> > torrential storms. Have you wondered why thousands of fishermen from
> Navsari
> > and Valsad district have to go 800 kilometres every six months to
> Porbander?
> >
> >
> > Iqbal Hasan Mamdu, visually impaired since birth has spent eight years
> > inside a prison -- first accused as a terrorist for burning a train, then
> > when POTA was repealed now waiting for his trial. When Modi says there
> are
> > no jails in India fit for him to be imprisoned, he is right. The jails in
> > Gujarat, as admitted by Gujarat Home Minister, Amit Shah, himself on the
> > floor of the Gujarat State Assembly, are overcrowded with prisoners.
> >
> > Eight years back, on Feb 27, when Satish Mishra's wife was exhumed by the
> > flames of fire of a train, that allegedly changed the course of history
> for
> > Gujarat, health officials could not confirm if his wife was missing or
> dead.
> > While, local VHP offices immediately branded her as a martyr, a karsevak
> > from Ayodhya and put her posters in their offices. Was it Mishra's
> decision
> > to send his daughter from Vadodara to Sultanpur in UP to spend rest of
> her
> > childhood with her grandparents, while he waited for one fact finding
> > commission after the another to confirm his exact statement as an
> eyewitness
> > of the tragedy?
> >
> > What happens to Member of Gujarat Legislative Assembly, Kanu Kalsaria? He
> is
> > very much a part of the BJP when he raised objections to a privately
> owned
> > detergent manufacturing plant being set up in his village because that
> would
> > take all the water meant for the animals and people. Is he tarnishing the
> > image of Gujarat by raising objection to the construction of a industry?
> >
> > Actually, what is your fascination with image Bipin? you and Pawan Durani
> > have been harping about this one elusive thing called image. Do you mean
> to
> > say, the seeming is true and what does not appear is not? Your politics
> is
> > such that it will only touch on the issues which are seemingly existent,
> but
> > about the issues which have been pushed under the carpet, it can wait and
> > rot.
> >
> > Although, now I do not have a home per se, I grew up in this little town
> in
> > Assam the north eastern part of India. There was a point of time, when
> about
> > 70 extremist groups were operating from that region organising protests,
> > bomb blasts, bandhs, killings on an everyday basis. So much happened in
> > these areas that three generation of youths misguided by their own ideals
> > and cheated by an extremely corrupt government making money through
> > security-terror apparatus. Some said there were Chinese training north
> > eastern youths, others said it was the lack of development. Do you think
> it
> > was the lack of development that forced Assamese youths to take up arms
> > against the state? This is coming from a state, where the first oil
> refinery
> > and an already existing tea industry was there before India got
> > independence. So was it degeneration in a phased manner adopted by
> > successive governments in Assam that lead to this insurgency? And now
> when I
> > say this, you will say i am tarnishing the image of north eastern states.
> >
> > People like you are the enemies of the nation, who are ready to do cover
> ups
> > for any political outfit at the slight provocation.
> >
> > Anupam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bhagalpur massacre didn't tarnish the image of Bihar, Shikh killing
> didn't
> > tarnish the image of Delhi/India, Mumbai bomb blast followed by the riots
> > didn't tarnished the image of Mumbai/Maharashtra. These are few can be
> > listed many such more, but only Gujarat riots tarnished the image of
> > Gujarat!!! For argument also normally everyone use Gujarat name only.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, this much hatred of Gujarat will not at all affect its
> development
> > and prosperity, since Gujarati's are very soft and sober and never show
> > hatred for anyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bipin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rakesh Iyer [mailto:rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:35 AM
> > To: Bipin Trivedi
> > Cc: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi; sarai-list
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems Modi has got further additions to his list of those who want to
> > brag about the 'image of Gujarat'. Anyways, the very same Modi didn't
> > realize that post-Godhra pogrom also tarnished the image of Gujarat.
> >
> > Rakesh
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Dear Rajen for your consent and views.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rajendra Bhat Uppinangadi [mailto:rajen786uppinangady at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 7:32 PM
> > To: Bipin Trivedi
> > Cc: sarai-list
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bipin,
> >
> > you have hit where it really sticks out, media men and women seem to have
> > strange hate for Narendra Modi and very affectionate love for Sonia, in
> the
> > process, the more the hate is spread, the voters in Gujarath are giving
> > thumbs up to Modi, and for sure, they know best, as they have seen the
> > governance rendered by the Nehru, his minions later, India the india and
> her
> > Rajiv and now Sonia and her minions.!
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Rajen.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > Forwarding herewith reply received from Indira Hirway against my
> objection
> > for her article in the Hindu.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Indira Hirway [mailto:indira_hirway at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:01 AM
> > To: Bipin Trivedi
> > Subject: Re: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Bipin Trivedi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I was away and therefore seen your mail only today. It is an interesting
> > mail!
> >
> > I do not know you, but it will be nice to talk. Can we meet or talk?  My
> > mobile is                        . I am located in Ahmedabad.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> >
> >
> > Indira Hirway
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> > Subject: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE
> > To: bleditor at thehindu.co.in
> > Cc: ndira.hirway at cfda.ac.in, Indira_hirway at yahoo.com
> > Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 4:51 PM
> >
> > The Editor
> >
> > Hindu Business Line
> >
> >
> >
> > I refer to article by Dr. Indira Hirway in Hindu Business Line on Gujarat
> > economy sustains growth; human development index falls Feb. 25, 2010.
> >
> >
> >
> > You are mentioning report of the period 1993 to 2005 in 2010 and
> > highlighting the issue. Do you have current figure or figure upto March
> 2009
> > of the same or even upto March 2008? How can you highlight 4 years old
> news?
> > Gujarat has much changed thereafter. Please be updated and publish
> > accordingly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gujarat is on very much development path even in the HDI parameters also.
> > Please search latest figure and publish accordingly and stop tarnishing
> > Gujarat image just because Narendra Modi will not get credit. I am not
> > belonging to any political party and not fan of Narendra Modi but I am
> fan
> > of development, whoever does it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually you are indirectly helping Narendra Modi popularity in Gujarati
> > people by repeating attempts of tarnishing Gujarat image.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bipin Trivedi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > --
> > Rajen.
> >
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