[Reader-list] No Jain temple burnt in Kashmir

[we wi]

Dear Sonia,

       Its too late if the Government won't react on POK now afterall its a INDIAN land not some foreign place.  Sonia madam the Muslim rulers ransacked the temple there at TajMahal and using the pillars and idols they built the Taj, we often say the proud of INDIA,symbol of love, and World wonder.  No need to burn the effegies its not the solution but look at the ransacking everywhere not just in 1 or 2 places.  At Varanasi the holy temple vandalized by the AURANGAZEB and built a mosque in the temple premises.  Later in the rest of the land the temple restored with the hidden linga by Indore queen along with Lahore King is a different issue. By fearing the voilence Late Mr. Gandhi  agreed for partition but the same happened after the division.  Irrespective of the division violence had to happen,  no change. If that is the result  India should be undivided.  The same violence has been continuing indefinitely.   If the JEHADIS just
 memorize these wierd atrocities and think about them for a min or 2 and express their pity thats sufficient for the INDIA.(Whether they perform namaj or notbut  they will surely become soft with this). Experience teach us lessons.  Forget lanka for a moment built a TEMPLE at Ayodhya like the one built at SOMNATH.  The scholar ADISHANKARA visited the mount Kailas Manas Sarovar, offered prayers to shiva and as a result he got the SPATIKA linga from the lord directly(Shiva appeared physically and ADISANKARA able to saw this with his eye sight). The same linga is being worshipped even now in INDIA. This is the fact and there is no china, they even dont know what is Manas Sarovar by that time.  

If facts are like this everybody portray temselves as owners.  China follow Buddism and they try to invade others.  Though Sidhartha  enlightened himself and created a theory to solve the missieries of the life(the old,the deceased,the dead,the graved), It doesn't meet the actual goal.  Not only that the soft theory was created by a KSHATRIYA by birth(Sidhartha) the warrior it leads to war always as it is the original characteristic.  Some body had miseries and they need conversion!  The damn thing.

Is China don't have any troubles like INDIA or what? If so then why there are no moists in that country like we are having?  Their people don't want to ruin their country probably.  

Next coming back US invaded other lands for different reasons, but now when it
comes to INDIA(we didn't invaded anybody for any reason over indefinite age), there is nothing wrong in invading POK to avoid all
sort of future headaches and reunite it with J&k as it is our own
territory.

As religion based 2 nation theory failed and its proved that division
is wrong, let INDIA take back the PAKISTAN as a whole which is like a
small state in India and govern it!  Whether failed or succeded
PAKISTAN is for Muslims, let the muslims causing trouble settle in that
Country and do whatever they want! What do you/anybody say? What is this yaar?  

I seriously suggest you to read sanskrit version of MAYURA SURYA SHATAK stanza wise(hope no one comment this as a myth or faith or backwardness), and surely your eyes will open broadly and there by you can get more enlightnement. 

Thanks in advance with Regards,
Dhatri.

--- On Mon, 8/30/10, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:

From: SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] No Jain temple burnt in Kashmir
To: "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 1:47 PM



Re: [Reader-list] No Jain temple burnt in Kashmir
Dear Dhatri,

I agree with everything you say.  You are absolutely right.  I will start a campaign tomorrow itself on the Taj Mahal.  Come let us raze it to the ground and build a fine temple.  After that let us invade Tibet and throw the Chinese out, after all it holds the holy site of Kailash Manasarovar.  And it goes without saying that we should open a second front and invade POK.  Then we should burn effigies of Aurangzeb and Marx on every street corner in every town in India.  Or maybe we should do that before invading Tibet?  And what about Sri Lanka?  I think we should definitely claim that island since we have so many places that are sacred to Lord Ram... 

Thank you so much for opening my eyes at last.

Regards,

sj





On 30/08/10 1:39 PM, "we wi" <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:



Dear Sonia,



        What about the temple destruction in rest of INDIA how can you condole ? Why don't you say some thing on Ayodhya,?  Why don't you say some thing on Taj Mahal(full of Hindu idols and pillars the site itself a temple)? Why don't you write some thing on Kohinoor diamond,peacock thrown ? Why don't you say anything on TIBET,POK(why don't we invade pok and bring the status as it was before 1947 one J&k state which is part n parcel of INDIA ;as USA invaded Iraq and Afghanistan y not INDIA act on its own occupied territory),China intrusions? Why don't you write on loyalty of Muslims(If they really want to be loyal to Pakistan then please settle in PAKISTAN and do whatever they like. If Pakistan unable to govern itself let INDIA govern them like any other state).  For building a mosque does it really necessary to destroy a temple? For spreading a religion does it really necessary to ruin another?(Conversions)!  WE will be happy if you write on
 AFGHANISTAN(gandhara an Indian land turned into something else),  vandalism by AURANGZEB and his predecessor during their rule and what is the best that GOVERNMENT to do NOW. Finally Why don't you write on the so called naxalism,Maoism in china as it is in INDIA(either these people go there and do the nonsense as they have been doing in INDIA or why dint the theories brought up there). Is Mao, Karl Max and theories are so great compared to that of many? (For example during the harshavardhana rule a scholar named MAYURA from J&k  proposed a theory Surya shatak to obtain the lost sight.  Even that is useful now if studied properly for a lasik vision.  ARYABHATTA,VARAHAMIHIRA,ADISHANKARA, VATSAYANA theories which are helpful to the world and its public even now. 





Regards,

Dhatri.



--- On Mon, 8/30/10, SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> wrote:



From: SJabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Reader-list] No Jain temple burnt in Kashmir

To: "rashneek kher" <rashneek at gmail.com>, "Aditya Raj Kaul" <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>

Cc: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net>

Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 8:42 AM



Dear Rashneek,



Someone had posted news of a Jain temple being destroyed and someone had

clarified that it had not.  I merely posted the piece to set the record

straight.



Kashmir is such a contentious site that when someone claims something and

you contradict it with facts the person immediately shifts the goalposts! My

posting the piece on the Jain temple had nothing to do with denying the fact

that temples have been destroyed in Kashmir or that Pandit properties have

been the target of vandalism and worse.



I really do hope that you are able to rebuild your house in Kashmir and in

time, the small temple in your village.



Best wishes,

Sonia





On 30/08/10 8:28 AM, "rashneek kher" <rashneek at gmail.com </mc/compose?to=rashneek at gmail.com> > wrote:



> Dear Sonia,



Around May this year I was planning to rebuild my house in

> Kashmir.I was

bouyed by the fact that my father could do the ancient

> Harmukatganga

pilgrimmage.When I started enquiring about things around my

> house and asked

about the cremation ground my friend Yasin Dar told me there

> are hardly any

left in entire valley simply because people have bulit houses

> on them.

There was a very small temple in our villgae.There were no more than

> 15

Pandit families so it would suffice but now I hear that someone's

> house

stands where the temple was and the land is grabbed as well.

So while

> this Jain temple might not have been broken or destroyed what about

hundreds

> of such temples which are not very far from where our friend

Shujaat

> lives.

Tell him to look around and he will find the stamp of Butshikans

> everywhere.



Love



Rashneek



On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul

> <kauladityaraj at gmail.com </mc/compose?to=kauladityaraj at gmail.com> >wrote:



> Don't trust The Times of India. Trust

> Shujaat Bukhari. Or else you will be

> treated as a communal. I guess his

> house was under raid during Amarnath

> agitation along with some PDP leaders.

> Police was searching for

> separatists.

>

>

> Well, No Jain Temple. Only 600

> Hindu Temples destroyed.

>

> Ah! Just 600. Forget it yaar. Why bother?

>

>

> Perhaps that is where stone-pelter mobs get their weapon. Destroy temple,>

> get stones. Transport them to main street corners. Simple!

>

> I heard 80 Shia

> familes have moved out of Kashmir in last two months.

> Sorry,

> I should

> already take it as my imagination. Sane voice has no place.

> Nothing

>

> doing!

>

> --

> Aditya Raj Kaul

>

> India Editor

> The Indian, Australia

>

>

> Web: http://activistsdiary.blogspot.com/

>

>  On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:22 PM,

> we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com </mc/compose?to=dhatr1i at yahoo.com> > wrote:

>

> > from Ghori...Aurangazeb to now there is

> no change,ruining ruining ruining

> > whether it is religion, temple,scholary,

> place,asset or whatever.

> >

> > --- On Sat, 8/28/10, SJabbar

> <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com </mc/compose?to=sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> > wrote:

> >

> > From: SJabbar

> <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com </mc/compose?to=sonia.jabbar at gmail.com> >

> > Subject: [Reader-list] No Jain temple burnt in

> Kashmir

> > To: "Sarai" <reader-list at sarai.net </mc/compose?to=reader-list at sarai.net> >

> > Date: Saturday, August 28,

> 2010, 2:13 PM

> >

> > From The Hindu

> >

> >

> >

> > No Jain temple was burnt

> in Kashmir: officials

> >

> > Shujaat Bukhari

> > SRINAGAR: The temporary

> structure housing a Jain temple in a local hotel

> > was

> > not burnt by a

> mob but was dismantled as a local hotel's contract with a

> > Mumbai-based

> travel agency which built the structure on its premises has

> > not

> > been

> renewed.

> >

> > In the wake of reports in newspapers around India that the

> only Jain

> temple

> > in Kashmir had been burnt by mobs leading the ongoing

> protests in the

> > Valley, hotel and State officials told The Hindu that no

> such incident

> had

> > taken place.

> >

> > According to Ghulam Mohiuddin,

> manager of Silver Star Hotel in Lasjan on

> > the

> > outskirts of Srinagar,

> the temporary structure was built as per contract

> > with Gem Tours and

> Travels, a Mumbai-based travel agency, which wanted to

> > provide a place

> where Jain tourists from other parts of India could

> worship

> > while

> visiting Kashmir.

> >

> > “But the three-year contract ended and was not

> extended, so the structure

> > was also dismantled,” he said. The temple was

> established to attract Jain

> > tourists. “As the situation in the Valley

> worsened and the tourist inflow

> > declined, the contract was not renewed and

> we thought there is no need

> for

> > this,” he added. The 8x8 pre-fabricated

> structure was dismantled in the

> > presence of the priest, Hans Raj, on

> August 10.

> >

> > Mr. Mohiuddin categorically denied that the temple was

> burnt or destroyed

> > by

> > a mob. “This is just not true. It is a fact that

> a large mob passed

> through

> > this area also but no one entered our

> premises so the question of

> touching

> > the temple does not arise,” he told

> The Hindu. Before the hotel

> management

> > decided to remove the structure,

> the owners of the travel agency were

> > contacted through the priest Hans

> Raj, who hails from Uttar Pradesh. “The

> > idols were removed and properly

> handed over to them when they arrived in

> > Srinagar the next day,” he said,

> adding the rumours seemed to be a

> > conspiracy to spread hatred against

> Kashmiris.

> >

> > Deputy Commissioner (Srinagar) Meraj Kakroo also rubbished

> reports about

> > the

> > Jain temple being attacked. “The report about the

> burning of the temple

> is

> > baseless and mischievous,” he said. He added

> that no proper temple

> existed

> > and “as per our information, it was an

> internal arrangement made by the

> > hotel owners.”

> >

> > Members of the

> community said there is, in fact, no Jain temple in

> Kashmir.

> > While there

> were 40-odd Jain families living in the Valley prior to

> > militancy, only

> five have stayed back. “There is no Jain temple here,

> > though

> > a family

> has set up one in their house,” Amit Jain, a businessman, said.

> >

> >

> Repeated attempts by this correspondent to get a response from Gem Tours

> >

> and

> > Travels drew a blank. However, a local news portal, Kashmir

> Dispatch,

> > reported that a team from the Doshi family, which built the

> temple, flew

> in

> > to Srinagar the day after it was dismantled. “They

> packed the idols in

> > cardboard boxes and returned to Sabarmati,” it said.

> “It was not burnt

> and

> > [the newspaper which said it was] will come out

> with a corrigendum,” the

> > portal quoted Jyotin Doshi, Chairman of Gem

> Tours, as saying. “The

> > structure

> > was broken; we don't know by whom, we

> had a contract with the hotel for

> > five

> > years under which the temple

> was built on the hotel property,” he said.

> >

> > “We don't want to create

> enmity and request everybody to stop thinking

> > about

> > the matter. We

> have now installed the idols in Ahmedabad and there is

> > nothing more I can

> say on this,” the portal quoted Mr. Doshi as saying.

> >

> >

> >

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