[Reader-list] [SPAM detected Spam-Test: True ; 5.6 / 5.0] RE: Body scanning violation of Sharia

[Javed]

Dear Bipin
I posted so many links since you mentioned that the Deoband never
issues fatwas against terrorism. And yes, in most cases I don't agree
with their fatwas (especially those against liberal issues such as
Tasleema) and I also believe that their fatwas against terrorism will
have very little or almost no affect on the actual situation. Even
many Pakistani madrasas issue out general fatwas against terrorism all
the time. I doubt if these madrasas or their appeals can reduce
terrorism today. Its a complex problem which has been much worsened by
the west's "war against terrorism". The only way out is to have a
dialogue with the people who are involved in terrorism. Bring them to
the table and let us hear what they have to say. There is no other
solution.

Javed


On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Bipin <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
> Dear Javed,
>
> Thanks for your reply and mentioning so many links against fatwa. Glad to
> know that you are not endorsing their fatwa. But, with your posting of fatwa
> details, you have not mentioned your views or comments and so understood
> that you agreed to it.
>
> All the links of fatwa you have posted came after 26/11 attack and that too
> they condemned terrorism/violence of any kind in general, but they have not
> issued fatwa against terrorists or terrorists group specifically. This is
> what actually required today to pressurize them. They are issuing fatwa
> specifically in case of Taslima Nasrin and Salman Rushdi, where they have
> not at all involved in any kind of violence but expressing their views in
> book. Even congress could not give shelter to Taslima fearing to lose their
> Muslim votes. Taslima thought that she will get shelter in secular country
> like India, but she proved wrong and so our secularism is also proved wrong.
> Our secularism relates to minority only. This is height of vote bank
> politics and minor appeasement. I am sorry to write such hard language, but
> truth is always bitter and hard.
>
> Please note that I am not against any community/minority, but where we stay,
> we have to faithful with our country with full heart. Whoever, trying to
> harm the country must be condemned with full-heart, whoever it may be
> majority or minority. The organization like Deoband and others should
> pressurize their few brothers to stop support to outside terrorists group,
> may be by way of sleeper cell or active cell, since it's much more chances
> that they will listen and believe them. If they does this much then also
> terrorism can be controlled heavily in India and country will be highly
> oblige/respect them.
>
> Thanks
> Bipin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Javed [mailto:javedmasoo at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:23 PM
> To: Bipin
> Cc: sarai-list
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Body scanning violation of Sharia
>
> Dear Bipin
> Although I am neither their official (or unofficial) spokesperson nor
> do I endorse their fatwas, but below is a list of links where you can
> find fatwas issued by the Deoband seminary AGAINST TERRORISM (not that
> these make any difference). Kindly also note that a fatwa is not an
> order or a decree, nor it is legally binding on any one. Literally,
> fatwa means an opinion. But the word has been made out to be something
> horrible - like a missile issued by a Ayatollah Khomieni.
>
> Darool-Uloom Deoband issues fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4045862.ece
>
> Muslim seminary issues fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/muslim-seminary-issues-fatwa-ag
> ainst-terrorism-838162.html
>
> Darool-Uloom Deoband issues fatwa against terror
> http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-33848320080601
>
> Deoband issues fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.idsa.in/TWIR/6_1_2008_DarulUloom
>
> Deoband declaration against terrorism
> http://muslimmedianetwork.com/mmn/?p=1874
>
> YouTube - Islamic Scholars Issue Fatwa Against Terrorism
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW_AoEUwFZA
>
> Islamic body issues fatwa against terrorism
> http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?576402
>
> Punjab chief mufti issues fatwa against terrorism
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Punjab-chief-mufti-issues-fatwa-aga
> inst-terrorism/articleshow/1820782.cms
>
> Ulema, Muftis ratify fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.hinduonnet.com/2008/11/09/stories/2008110959951100.htm
>
> 6000 Muslim Clerics Endorse Fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.juancole.com/2008/11/6000-muslim-clerics-endorse-fatwa.html
>
> Syed Soharwardy's fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=2475287
>
> Imams issue fatwa against terrorism
> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2010/01/09/Imams-issue-fatwa-again
> st-terrorism/UPI-23331263019227/
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Bipin <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
>> We never heard Deoband or other Islamic organization issuing fatwa against
> terrorists or terrorists group, why?
>>
>> Why this full body scanning requires nowadays? Nobody wants to do it
> willingly, but terrorist activity forced to do the same. So, instead of
> giving fatwa against this, Deoband must control the terrorists and do
> something to stop the terrorism.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bipin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:reader-list-bounces at sarai.net]
> On Behalf Of Javed
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:37 PM
>> To: sarai list
>> Subject: [Reader-list] Body scanning violation of Sharia
>>
>> Although almost everyone in the west is debating the pros and cons of
>> the full-body scanning (see the link at the bottom), but as soon as
>> the Deoband issues a fatwa against this, everyone in India will
>> condemn the fatwa and support the body-scanning as the best security
>> measure.
>>
>> -----
>> Body scanning violation of Sharia: Darul Uloom
>> Pervez Iqbal Siddiqui, TNN, 16 February 2010, 05:42am IST
>>
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