[Reader-list] AMAN KI AASHA

[Pawan Durani]

I wish some people understood poetry .....

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta
<shuddha at sarai.net> wrote:
> Aditya,
>
> Are you, or the 16 year-old Sakshi, whose juvenilia you have
> subjected us to, implying that in your 'padosi ke ghar' (neighbouring
> house - a not so veiled reference to the neighbouring country,
> Pakistan) children play with bombs?
>
> For the sake of our -Hindi speaking readers, the 'poem' by '16 year
> old Sakshi' that Aditya Raj Kaul has now sent us - translates,
> (roughly) as follows. I have read this poem very carefully. I take
> very serious objection to the fact that it suggests that Pakistani
> children are in some ways responsible for terrorist atrocities in
> India, specificially, in Pune.
>
> "...In my neighbour's house
> children play with bombs,
> and in mine, they play with a ball
> everyday, just like this, they play with pleasure
> sometimes, the balls finds their way into their house
> and their bombs find their way into mine
> this is what happened yesterday @ Pune
> they don't give us back our balls
> we don't give them back their bombs
> they are fortunate...
> and we...."
>
> Seriously Aditya, get a life, at least do not stoop so low as to
> imply, with this disgusting piece of innuendo, that Pakistani
> children are terrorists.
>
> At least let us leave children alone.
>
> Enraged and horrified at the amoral, cynical abyss that you inhabit,
> and that too at a relatively young age.
>
> Shuddha
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20-Feb-10, at 1:57 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul wrote:
>
>> Mr. Vij,
>>
>> I campaigned on roads with public, so media came out to support. I
>> felt the
>> brunt of this; as cases were slapped against me for protesting.
>> When you
>> can't argue Mr. Vij, you attack 'activists' personally on public
>> forums such
>> as these.
>>
>> My campaign however wasn't discussed in the Board meeting of some
>> Multi-National Company. My campaign didn't have commercials on
>> television,
>> radio and newspapers.
>>
>> It seems you are an expert on 'selling' campaigns. Wonder how that
>> happens!
>> Have you shifted your profession lately? Please do explain to us list
>> members in detail.
>>
>> Don't mix issues without thinking. It becomes cheap.
>>
>> As the moderators have the liberty to trash a value addition to the
>> list. So
>> do I have the right to counter 'trash' and 'propaganda' on this list.
>>
>> Dear Shuddhaji
>>
>> A 16 year of Sakshi sent me these lines a couple of days back -
>>
>> मेरे पड़ोस वाले घर में ,
>> बच्चे बम से खेलते है...
>>
>> और मेरे बच्चे यहाँ गेंद
>> से...
>>
>> हर रोज़ युही मज़े से
>> खेलते है..
>>
>> अक्सर गेंद उनके घर में
>> जाती है..
>>
>> और उनके बम मेरे घर में
>> आते है...
>>
>> कल भी एसा ही दिन था, @pune
>>
>> पडोसी गेंद लोटाते नहीं,
>>
>> और हम भी उनके बम लोटाते
>> नहीं ...
>>
>> वो खुश किस्मत है ...
>>
>> और हम ....
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Aditya Raj Kaul
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Shivam Vij शिवम्
>> विज्
>> <mail at shivamvij.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Shri Aditya Raj Kaulji has for some weeks now been telling the world
>>> about how Aman ki Asha has to do with m-words like "media
>>> market-management". Has he no sense of irony? he, the master of
>>> "media
>>> market-managment" campaigns of various causes? Jab tumhara campaign
>>> bikta hai toh peace, kisi aur ka toh market? Kuch to sharam karon.
>>>
>>> On 17 February 2010 17:21, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Dear Shri Shuddhabrata Senguptaji
>>>>
>>>> Namaskar
>>>>
>>>> I have merely forwarded a reaction from a common Indian to the
>>>> recent
>>>> developments of 'Aman Ki Asha' around. I can see you agitated.
>>>> Wonder
>>> what
>>>> makes you so uncomfortable! Is it the truth of Islamic-terrorism
>>>> or the
>>>> engagement politics and media market-management of Peace?
>>>>
>>>> It hardly matters to me how a godamn 'My Name Is Khan' does at
>>>> the box
>>>> office. I condenm the protests against it. However, terrorism
>>>> matters to
>>> me
>>>> and every Indian not how much money a producer makes out of made-up
>>>> publicity. We don't want protection of a bloody movie; we want
>>>> security
>>> for
>>>> citizens of this country.
>>>>
>>>> You have yet again displayed intolerance and abused my right to
>>> participate
>>>> in this so called 'Liberal' forum. I am not facing this for the
>>>> first
>>> time.
>>>> It has become usual for me. Wonder if I calculate the wastage of
>>>> time to
>>> us
>>>> by some of the rhetoric of far extremist, intolerant and left
>>>> lunatic
>>>> fringe.
>>>>
>>>> Have tolerance in letter and spirit. We have heard enough of your
>>>> fake
>>> Batla
>>>> House and several other such theories. What happened to them, if
>>>> I may
>>> ask?
>>>>
>>>> Pakistan is suffering from something which it initiated decades
>>>> ago. It
>>> will
>>>> continue to burn. I never objected to views from Pakistani
>>>> public. Though
>>>> Kashmir can never be on dialogue table with Pakistan. Nor can it
>>>> be with
>>>> terrorists who some glorify in this forum.
>>>>
>>>> Congrats to you and other co-founders of Sarai, which completed a
>>>> decade
>>>> recently. I pray for more, patience, tolerance and flow of rational
>>> thought
>>>> to the Sarai.
>>>>
>>>> And hope you hold/delete/block less/none of our e-mails from now
>>>> onwards.
>>>> Even that may be abuse of liberty, something you are very well
>>>> versed
>>> with
>>>> yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want this this to turn into a relay e-mail exchange as has
>>> happened
>>>> in the past.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> 2010/2/17 Shuddhabrata Sengupta <shuddha at sarai.net>
>>>>
>>>>> Aditya,
>>>>>
>>>>> I regret that you have once again abused the space of liberty on
>>>>> this
>>> list
>>>>> by forwarding this idiotic poem, which I have wasted my time by
>>>>> reading.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am normally not a fan of the Times of India, or the Jang Group of
>>>>> Newspapers, but, I have to say, that the steady stream of
>>>>> opposition
>>> that
>>>>> their 'Aman Ki Asha' initiative seems to be gathering from the
>>>>> usual
>>>>> suspects makes me even more interested in what the 'Aman ki Asha'
>>> initiative
>>>>> is all about. I sincerely hope that it sets a trend, and that other
>>> media
>>>>> corporations and other agencies mirror it by setting up their own
>>>>> initiatives for sustaining the resources of peace in South Asia,
>>>>> and
>>>>> especially between India and Pakistan, in these difficult times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having tasted a bitter defeat after attempting their thuggery on
>>>>> the 'My
>>>>> Name is Khan' issue, the lunatic right is now seeking a
>>>>> fruitless second
>>>>> wind, by riding the waves of the regrettable bomb blast that
>>>>> occured in
>>> the
>>>>> German Bakery in Pune. Your effort to surf this wave is
>>>>> pathetic. The
>>>>> xenophobia agenda is dead and buried, and no amount of impotent
>>>>> roaring
>>> from
>>>>> Matoshtree will make it walk again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find the poem that you sent, strongly objectionable, because
>>>>> it makes
>>> no
>>>>> attempt to distinguish between different kinds of opinion and
>>>>> publics in
>>>>> Pakistan.
>>>>>
>>>>> The poem says -
>>>>>
>>>>> Dilli, Mumbai Ahemdabad ne, jab ki thi jaane qurbaan,
>>>>> man hi man khush hote they, yahi paki haiwan.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who do not understand Hindi. These lines can be
>>>>> translated as
>>>>> follows -
>>>>>
>>>>> "When in Delhi, Mumbai and Ahmedabad, lives were sacrificed
>>>>> In their hearts, Paki monsters rejoiced"
>>>>>
>>>>> I am aware of the fact that time and again, whenever terrorist
>>> atrocities
>>>>> occur in India, a significant section of Pakistani political
>>>>> society
>>> condemn
>>>>> acts of terrorism in no uncertain terms.  Many people in India
>>>>> do the
>>> same
>>>>> when terrorism occurs in Pakistan. To lump all Pakistanis (or
>>>>> for that
>>>>> matter, all Indians) as 'monsters' who 'rejoice in their hearts'
>>>>> when
>>> loss
>>>>> of life occurs, is disgusting. I find your endorsement of this
>>> disgusting
>>>>> sentiment shameful.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a very strong body of public opinion in Pakistan that
>>>>> wants
>>> peace
>>>>> in South Asia, and realizes that peace is the only way forward in
>>> Pakistan.
>>>>> They act vigilantly against war-mongers and preachers of
>>>>> prejudice in
>>>>> Pakistan, exactly as many of us act vigilantly against the
>>>>> constituency
>>> that
>>>>> advocates permanent aggression here. That includes our vigilance
>>>>> against
>>>>> your hate filled agenda.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever an atrocity like what happened in Pune occurs, I find
>>>>> that the
>>>>> constituency of rabid right-wing nationalism comes crawling out
>>>>> like
>>> maggots
>>>>> to feast on the dead. As if they were waiting for tragedy to
>>>>> strike to
>>> once
>>>>> again find their reason for existence.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have none of these people any shame? Have you none at all?
>>>>>
>>>>> Shuddha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17-Feb-10, at 1:07 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Irma Razdan
>>>>> Date: 2010/2/17
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: AMAN KI AASHA
>>>>> To:
>>>>>
>>>>> For my Hindi speaking followers, this is a poem that was
>>>>> authored by a
>>> mod
>>>>> of a forum which is my frequent haunt. It is a take on the
>>>>> recent 'Aman
>>> ki
>>>>> Asha' program by the Times of India and Jang group of Pakistan,
>>>>> which is
>>>>> supposed to be an Indo-Pak peace project. Newbies, please refer
>>>>> to link.
>>>>>
>>>>> घर घर में आज जगती है, हर
>>>>> सुबह अमन की आशा,
>>>>> टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया और
>>>>> दैनिक जंग का, देखो नया
>>>>> तमाशा,
>>>>>
>>>>> पीठ में ख़ंजर भोंका
>>>>> जिनने, मानवता को ही छला,
>>>>> आज बोलते चले हैं वोही,
>>>>> कैसी शांति की भाषा,
>>>>>
>>>>> ज़मीन के लालच को धर्म
>>>>> का मुखौटा पहना,
>>>>> जिन जल्लादों ने छीना
>>>>> भारत माँ का गहना,
>>>>> आज उन्ही से रखनी होगी,
>>>>> हमको प्रेम की अभिलाषा
>>>>> वाह रे टाइम्स ऑफ
>>>>> इंडिया, क्या खूब है तेरी
>>>>> आशा.
>>>>>
>>>>> देखो कैप्टन कालिया,
>>>>> ऐसा हुआ आपका बलिदान,
>>>>> आज अफ़ज़ल गुरु और क़सब
>>>>> को शायद मिल जाये जीवनदान,
>>>>> छब्बीस-ग्यारह दोहराने
>>>>> को बेचैन हैं जिनके
>>>>> जेहादी,
>>>>> दोस्ती का राग सुना रहे,
>>>>> वही कियानी, ज़रदारी और
>>>>> गीलानी,
>>>>> कौआ चले हंस की चाल, देखो
>>>>> इनकी मीठी भाषा,
>>>>> हमें दोस्ती का पाठ
>>>>> पढ़ाएंगे, अब सूजा अहमद
>>>>> पाशा.
>>>>>
>>>>> हमारे अपने नेताओं ने,
>>>>> देश को भी नहीं बख़्शा
>>>>> नपुंसक से भी कम पौरुष
>>>>> जिनमें, वो करेंगे देश की
>>>>> रक्षा?
>>>>> बातचीत के ज़रिये ये,
>>>>> मिटा देंगे सारे भेद
>>>>> आधा कश्मीर खोने का,
>>>>> इनको ज़रा नहीं खेद,
>>>>> राष्ट्र को किया
>>>>> लज्जित, दी शर्म-अल-
>>>>> शेख़ में निराशा,
>>>>> समझे नहीं हम किसने लिखी
>>>>> आख़िर उस दस्तावेज़ की
>>>>> भाषा.
>>>>> कब तक जयचंदों को जनती
>>>>> रहेगी हे माता!
>>>>> कब तक तेरे बच्चों को
>>>>> होती रहेगी हताशा,
>>>>>
>>>>> आतंकवाद की आग में जब जल
>>>>> रहा है पाकिस्तान,
>>>>> ऐसी हालत में इनके
>>>>> हृदय में जागा है इंसान,
>>>>> दिल्ली मुंबई अहमदाबाद
>>>>> ने जब की थीं जानें
>>>>> क़ुर्बान,
>>>>> मन ही मन खुश होते थे यही
>>>>> पाकी हैवान,
>>>>> देखो भारतवासियों, रखना
>>>>> इतना ध्यान,
>>>>> राष्ट्रभक्तों के हाथ
>>>>> में ही सदा देना तुम कमान,
>>>>> झूठे धर्म-निरपक्षों से
>>>>> रहना तुम सावधान,
>>>>> वोट बैंक बनकर कभी मत
>>>>> करना मतदान.
>>>>>
>>>>> बोस, पटेल, सावरकर ने,
>>>>> जिस देश को है तराशा,
>>>>> लूट ना ले उसको फिर, यह
>>>>> झूठी अमन की आशा.
>>>>> घर घर में आज जगती है, हर
>>>>> सुबह अमन की आशा,
>>>>> टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया और
>>>>> दैनिक जंग का, देखो नया
>>>>> तमाशा.
>>>>>
>>>>> English Transliteration:
>>>>>
>>>>> Aman Ki Aasha
>>>>>
>>>>> Ghar ghar mein aaj jagti hai, har subah aman ki aasha,
>>>>> Times of India aur dainik Jang ka, dekho naya tamaasha,
>>>>>
>>>>> Peeth mein khanjar bhonka jinnay, manavta ko hi chhala,
>>>>> aaj bolte chale hain wohi, kaisi shanti ki bhaasha,
>>>>>
>>>>> zameen ke lalach ko dharm ka mukhauta pehna,
>>>>> jin jallado ne chhena, Bharat Maa ka gehna,
>>>>> aaj unhi se rakhni hogi, hamko prem ki abhilaasha,
>>>>> wah re Times of India, kya khoob hai teri Aasha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dekho Captain Kalia, aisa hua aapka balidaan,
>>>>> Aaj Afzal Guru aur Qasab ko, shayad mil jaaye jeevandaan,
>>>>> Chhabees-Gyarah (26/11) dohraanay ko, bechain hain jinkay jehadi,
>>>>> hame dosti ka raag sunaa rahey, wohi Kiani, Zardari aur Gilani
>>>>> Kawwa chale hans ki chaal, dekho inki meethi bhaasha,
>>>>> hamen dosti ka paath padhayenge, ab Sooja Ahmed Pasha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hamare apne netao ne, desh ko bhi nahi baksha,
>>>>> Napunsak se bhi kam pourush jinme, woh karenge desh ki raksha?
>>>>> baatcheet ke zariye ye, mitaa denge saare bhed,
>>>>> aadha Kashmir khoney ka, inko zara nahi khed,
>>>>> Rashtra ko kiya lajjit, di Sharm-Al-Shekh mein niraasha,
>>>>> samjhe nahin hum kisnay likhi , aakhir us dastavez ki bhasha.
>>>>> Kab tak Jaichando ko janti rahegi he maata,
>>>>> Kab tak tere bachcho ko, hoti rahegi hataasha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Atankwaad ki aag mein, jab jal raha hai Pakistan,
>>>>> Aisi halat mein inke hriday mein, jaaga hai insaan,
>>>>> Dilli, Mumbai Ahemdabad ne, jab ki thi jaane qurbaan,
>>>>> man hi man khush hote they, yahi paki haiwan.
>>>>> Dekho Bharat vasiyon, rakhna itna dhyan,
>>>>> Rashtrabhakto ke haath mein hi, sada dana tum kamaan,
>>>>> Jhoothey dharm-nirpayksho se, rehna tom saavdhaan,
>>>>> vote bank bankar kabhi, mat karna matdaan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bose, Patel, Savarkar ne, jis desh ko hai taraasha,
>>>>> loot na le usko phir, yeh jhooti aman ki aasha.
>>>>> Ghar ghar mein aaj jagti hai, har subah aman ki aasha,
>>>>> Times of India aur dainik Jang ka, dekho naya tamaasha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Courtsey : Kumpal Madrasi
>>>>>
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>>>>> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>>>>> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>>>>> Raqs Media Collective
>>>>> shuddha at sarai.net
>>>>> www.sarai.net
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Aditya Raj Kaul
>>>>
>>>> Freelance Writer
>>>>
>>>> Blog: http://activistsdiary.blogspot.com/
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> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
> Raqs Media Collective
> shuddha at sarai.net
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