[Reader-list] Kashmir as HUB on Central Asia Trade Route. When was that?

S. Jabbar sonia.jabbar at gmail.com
Wed Feb 24 08:03:14 IST 2010 

Linking development to the availability of land for industrial use is one of
the most bizarre economic arguments I have heard.  By this yardstick every
other state of India should have been superbly developed and we would not be
hosting a third of the world's poor.  So any idea why, where land is freely
available to industry, states like Madhya Pradesh have the lowest growth
rates? What about UP, Bihar and Rajasthan?  If tomorrow land is offered
gratis to industrialists in the middle of the Thar desert to set up
factories, do you seriously think you would have an industrial revolution?

Many Indians have questions about Article 370, some valid, some not so
valid.  Until quite recently you weren't allowed to buy land in Himachal but
no one made a fuss about that.  There are restrictions in place even now as
to how much one can buy and for what use.  There are other parts of India
where there are similar restrictions: for example in the Andaman & Nicobar
islands, where some islands are completely off bounds even to tourists let
alone developers and industrialists.  It would be foolish to argue that
these should be opened up for the 'benefit' and well-being of its
inhabitants.  23% of India's land is under forests and under the Forest Act
you cannot buy this land and start a farm or build a house or do anything
with it.  Would you argue that this should be made available for
'development'?  

Even if you abolished Article 370 and invited industrialists to J&K they
would not come for a very simple reason:  you cannot place your business in
a disturbed area.  Peace and political stability are inextricably linked to
sustainable development.  And then the reason I referred to J&K's
traditional trade routes is that if & when there is peace and if & when
these routes re-open these would be a far greater incentive to business than
the simple offer of owning land in perpetuity.  If I made razor blades or
soap, for example, why would I set up shop in J&K with its limited market
and take on the added headache and cost of transporting raw materials all
the way there when my markets are in densely populated Delhi and UP?  I
would only do that if I had access to new markets in N. Pakistan and the
Xianjiang region.  


> From: Bipin <aliens at dataone.in>
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:28:29 +0530
> To: 'Kshmendra Kaul' <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: sarai-list <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kashmir as HUB on Central Asia Trade Route. When
> was that?
> 
> Dear Kshemendra,

 

You are right, that due to our constitution compulsion to
> remove article 370
is remote possibility and that way it was framed earlier
> reason god knows.
Perhaps our pseudo-secular society will never give such an
> opportunity.
There is a remote possibility of it, since 2/3 majority for any
> political
party is not possible and of course for BJP also not at all, so in
> my
opinion, let even India become super power than also Kashmir position
> will
not improve and cannot amalgamated in India and the path of its
> development
also will have restrictions.

 

My only intention to raise point
> of article 370 is for development of
Kashmir only and not at all politics. If
> Kashmiri people will understand
this will definitely for their benefit only.
> Let us hope and wait for that
day that the land of heaven becomes practically
> real land of heaven for the
people of Kashmir. If they understand this and
> come out from the separatists
trap will benefit them. 

 

Thanks

Bipin

 


> 

From: Kshmendra Kaul [mailto:kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday,
> February 23, 2010 7:25 PM
To: Bipin
Cc: sarai-list
Subject: RE: [Reader-list]
> Kashmir as HUB on Central Asia Trade Route. When
was that?

 


Dear Bipin


> 

It is not possible to abolish Art 370 so I would suggest that you do
> not
factor in any such possibility if you are looking at how to improve
> the
situation in Kashmir.

 

Art370 is so deeply embedded in the Constitution
> of India (COI) that it has
been humourously opined that it is possible to
> amend every Article of COI
other than Art 370.

 

There is always the
> possibilty of:

 

- Declaring an Emergency and suspending Art 370 during the
> pendancy of
Emergency. Such an Emergency would have to declared in all of
> India and not
just J&K because Art370 is a ruling provision in COI and
> reflected
secondarily in the Constitution of J&K.

 

Such a suspension would
> in any case be a temporary suspension and post
lifting of Emergency any steps
> of Constitutional Import have to be ratified
by due processes as specified in
> COI. Which brings you back to square one.

 

- The other possibility is one
> through playing havoc with the COI by
Unconstitutional Amendments to various
> other Articles.

 

For this to happen in connection with Art370, it would
> require a political
party like BJP having a two-thirds majority in both houses
> of the Parliament
and similar Legislative Control in at least 50 percent of
> the States.

 

I do not see that happening in my lifetime.


> 

Kshmendra



--- On Tue, 2/23/10, Bipin <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:


From:
> Bipin <aliens at dataone.in>
Subject: RE: [Reader-list] Kashmir as HUB on Central
> Asia Trade Route. When
was that?
To: "'Kshmendra Kaul'"
> <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "sarai-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date:
> Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 6:18 PM

Dear Kshemendra,

Abolition of article
> 370 is my point of view (and so many my fellow Indians
also) will help Kashmir
> bring back in the normal situation and get
amalgamated with India. I don't
> want to look into the Kashmir history, but
looking to the future of it.
> Whatever happened in the history, good or bad
is past, but I am looking for
> the probable prosperity in the future. And not
only valley but whole Jammu &
> Kashmir even including POK since one day it
will be with India only.

So, I am
> looking to broader prospect and not at all restricting to valley.
Since,
> problem created in valley by so called separatists only and they
> Are
responsible for present situation and huge unemployment.
> 

Thanks
Bipin


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Subject: [Reader-list] Kashmir as HUB on Central Asia Trade Route.
> When was
that?

Dear Sonia

Bipin seems to have inadvertently posted into the
> Reader List your
correspondence with him.

The two of you were discussing
> Abolition of Article 370 / Industrial
Policies / Business and Employment
> Opportunities. Very pertinent
observations by you.

I found
> interesting/intriguing the following comment by you:

""""" the fact that
> Kashmir which was once an entrepot, a hub on the
lucrative Central Asia trade
> route """"""

I wonder what you meant by "HUB". 

The two of you were
> discussing Indian Controlled Kashmir. Please do inform
when it was that
> Kashmir was a "hub" on the the Central Asia Trade Route.
There must be
> credible references testifying to that. Never too late to
learn.

While asking
> my question I have kept in mind both the routing of the "Silk
Road" as well as
> that of the "Mughal Road" (and it's purpose).

Repeating myself, Indian
> Controlled Kashmir is under reference and
especially the Valley

Kshmendra




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