[Reader-list] Taliban is the future

[yasir ~يا سر]

absolutely not. why should we be under any illusion of 'secularism'. you did
not find me saying that, in all that i wrote. these are your own barriers.
as you well know secular institutions can be hijacked by religious parties
and mafias. think neocons, think india. you are really being too harsh.

india should just join the oic, india's muslim population is larger than
pakistan. as it is saudis are mediating... is will probably join as
observer.

don't misquote me. although not so common, i think "islamic' frameworks can
be sufficiently liberal, left and radical. you can quote me on that.

best



On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>wrote:

>  A first step for considering any kind of 'secularity' in Pakistan would
> be:
>
> - when Pakistan removes the word "Islamic" from its Constitution (and
> attendant clauses on Legislation and Laws)
>
> - when Pakistan opts out of the membership of the OIC
>
> Till such time, talking about anything secular about Pakistan are
> intellectual exercises; indulgences.
>
> Kshmendra
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/11/10, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Taliban is the future
> To: "Sarai Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 2:31 AM
>
> >
> > The proliferation of ‘jihad’ in mainland Pakistan is but
> > the opportunity cost of strategy.
> >
>
> she is arguing that jihad and religion is instrumental for mainstream pk.
> and is skeptical of the claim either way for the military command as well.
> further by saying "a similar claim might not be made for society at large",
> she actually sez nothing about pakistani society at large, having only
> removed the certainty of a two-mode religious v secular military. best, y.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM, S. Jabbar <sonia.jabbar at gmail.com<http://us.mc572.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sonia.jabbar@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The military’s ideology
> > By Ayesha Siddiqa
> > Friday, 25 Sep, 2009
> >
> >
> > PAKISTAN observers often wonder what the Pakistan military’s primary
> > ideology is. Is it a secular institution or one which is high on
> religious
> > values? Since the military is considered the strongest institution of the
> > Pakistani state, the question becomes c
> >
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