[Reader-list] Question regarding women's reservation bill

Wed Mar 17 16:21:19 IST 2010

Dear all,

 India and its population is always happy with token display of concern,
women reservation bill is also no different, issue is, first step is taken,
in tokenism, next will be may be in another 14 years, for the MPs know well
that sitting lot have to give way to their wives, concumbines, daughters,
live ins,  for a period of 5 years , later cling back to the seat of power.
No rules are framed, why all this fuss as this bill is introduced and passed
in rajya sabha, which has absolutely no practical values, ecept the token
display of "concern.?"

Regards,
rajen.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:15 PM, A.K. Malik <akmalik45 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Mr Kaul,
>               There seems to be a pre-conceived notion that our women-folks
> don't have minds of their own and they would do whatever their husbands,
> fathers, brothers ask them to to do as Laluji has said "If I aske Rabri to
> vote in a particular way, is she going to do it differently?".
> This may be true to some extent or for some time but is likely to change
> with time.
> Regards,
>
> (A.K.MALIK)
>
>
> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Question regarding women's reservation bill
> > To: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>, "TaraPrakash" <
> taraprakash at gmail.com>, "Rahul Asthana" <rahul_capri at yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "Sarai Reader List" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 4:51 PM
>  > See article below
> >
> > Family equations will change at places.
> >
> > "Always in the family" seats, hitherto won by the menfolk
> > will identify prospective candidates from amongst:
> >
> > - Wife, Wives, Daughters, Sisters, Mother(s)
> > - Daughter(s)-In-Law, Sister(s)-In-Law, Mother(s)-In-Law
> >
> > KK
> >
> > "Lawmakers seek wives in bid to safeguard seats"
> > (Women's Reservation Bill prompts rethink)
> >
> > By Lata Rani, Correspondent
> > Published: 00:00 March 13, 2010
> >
> > Patna : The contentious Women's Reservation Bill which
> > seeks to provide 33 per cent of seats for women in the Lok
> > Sabha and state assemblies has brought an immediate
> > realisation to dozens of bachelor lawmakers in Bihar —
> > they need to get married soon.
> >
> > The desire for wives has been sparked by fears that under
> > the new law, bachelor lawmakers could lose their "family"
> > seats if they are declared reserved for women.
> >
> > Political experts say Bihar could be the first state in
> > India to be impacted by the bill if it is passed by both
> > Houses of the Parliament. The bill has been passed by Rajya
> > Sabha, the upper house, but it is yet to pass the lower
> > house.
> >
> > Significantly, state assembly elections in this eastern
> > Indian state are scheduled later this year.
> >
> > Although the five-year tenure of the ruling National
> > Democratic Alliance government in Bihar expires on November
> > 24, indications are that elections could be advanced.
> >
> >
> > Party meeting
> >
> > The chief minister Nitish Kumar, at a party meeting in
> > Patna on Thursday, asked his party to get ready for polls
> > which could be announced anytime.
> >
> > "Now, I will have to marry soon. There is no way out for
> > bachelor legislators like me," independent legislator
> > Haribhushan Thakur Bachaul said.
> >
> > "Who will represent my seat if it was reserved for a woman?
> > But if I am married, I can, at least, field my wife for that
> > seat and keep it in my family," Another legislator Narendra
> > Singh added: "I have nursed my constituency so assiduously
> > and was elected to state assembly on my own strengths but I,
> > too, am quite apprehensive about my seat."
> >
> > He also says he will search for a bride so he can lay claim
> > to the seat if it becomes reserved.
> >
> >
> > Lawmaker couples
> >
> > The bachelor legislators, however, could take their cue
> > from a number of lawmaker couples.
> > Former Indian Federal Minister and Lok Sabha member Lalu
> > Prasad's wife Rabri Devi is member of the Bihar assembly.
> >
> > Others like Kausal Yadav and Raju Singh are lawmakers along
> > with their wives in the assembly.
> >
> > At present, the total number of elected women lawmakers in
> > Bihar is 25 with a maximum of 12 women getting elected on
> > the ruling Janata Dal (United) tickets.
> >
> > But once the bill comes into force, the number of seats to
> > be reserved for women in the assembly will go up to 83.
> >
> >
> >
> http://gulfnews.com/news/world/india/lawmakers-seek-wives-in-bid-to-safeguard-seats-1.596078
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Rahul Asthana <rahul_capri at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Rahul Asthana <rahul_capri at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Question regarding women's
> > reservation bill
> > To: "Rakesh Iyer" <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>,
> > "TaraPrakash" <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>,
> > "Sarai Reader List" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 11:26 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Taraprakash,
> > Besides the point made by Rakesh, my biggest problem with
> > this scheme is the uncertainty involved about the next
> > ticket. I do not have anything against reservation per se.
> > Actually I do not like Madhu Kishwar's scheme either. Fixed
> > constituencies are the best way forward, IMHO of
> > course.Also, this is a very non trivial change that can
> > potentially shake the very foundations of democracy. Hence I
> > do not believe that experiment as you go is an option here.
> > Maybe all parties can iron out the kinks.We should have more
> > debate on this.
> > Thanks
> > Rahul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> > To: TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Rahul Asthana <rahul_capri at yahoo.com>;
> > Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>;
> > Sarai Reader List <reader-list at sarai.net>
> > Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 12:08:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Question regarding women's
> > reservation bill
> >
> > Dear Taraprakash
> >
> > It is very easy to say that one should contest as an
> > independent candidate. If you really wish to know how
> > elections are played like a drama, please read P.Sainath on
> > www.indiatogether.org, for Maharashtra elections in 2009
> > (both Lok Sabha and assembly). Read on how millions were
> > spent in the name of publicity by the candidates which were
> > never accounted for, and in what great ways. An independent
> > candidate will never be able to do that, unless of course
> > he/she is corrupt.
> >
> > Indian democracy is a joke, not a democracy please! Even
> > the elections are manipulated like anything. From media
> > management to distributing sarees before the public, our
> > democracy is indeed a joke. And when all of us are to blame
> > for it, where can we hide at all?
> >
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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