[Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE

[Bipin Trivedi]

Dear Rakesh/Malik,

Aam admi is applicable to all including poor to middle/upper middle class. You can fool the people once but you can't fool them all the time. Lalu tried to fool the people all the time, but one get success with this for some time but not all the time. Someone, arguing that he succeeded as railway minister, but railway reform was ongoing process and whoever will be there as railway minister would have been done it. Since 20 years of rule, he proved wrong in Bihar with his administration, there is no question to give credit to him as railway minister. No doubt curtsey acknowledgement given by congress leaders/PM as an important ally is different thing.

SC/ST (or say adivasi, shudra and others) and even Muslims also are poor for their own reason and don't want to come out of their fence, don’t want to amalgamate with India and don't want to develop themselves. They are having much more children and could not able to take care of them upto the standard and remain poor. Even I have heard from many SC/ST families that we will produce more children since govt. reserves job for us so not to worry. So, reservation policy is actually act as a tool of population increment. Think over it positively. Due to more children, they are unable to give proper education, personalize care and remain backward in humanity also. (we talk to increase HDI in this situation is remote possibility) Those who comes out of their fence are definitely came up and living their healthy life. You will find many such families not only in city even in the villages. For all these if you can make survey, I am sure you will find that they are having small family of maximum 2 or 3 children and one wife. Adivasi don't allow industry or development in their area and they willingly like to live with his traditional way of living. In the situation will you think any govt. can do anything?

Thanks

Bipin

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: reader-list-bounces at sarai.net [mailto:reader-list-bounces at sarai.net] On Behalf Of Rakesh Iyer
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:36 AM
To: A.K. Malik
Cc: Sarai List
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] FW: ATTEMPT OF TARNISHING GUJARAT IMAGE

 

Dear Malik

 

My views:

 

1) I would like to clarify here about one point you made that I may feel

that Lalu is a better CM than Nitish. I don't agree on it one bit. Lalu

Yadav made a mess of Bihar in ways which only he could have done. And I do

agree that Nitish has brought a change in Bihar. But to believe that Nitish

is doing wonders is a farcical argument.

 

2) The common man won't perceive anything different from the statistics I

put up, contrary to what you may believe. The problem with most newspapers

and famous magazines and site links (from where most of the people on this

forum seem to post articles) is that they think that the middle class

working person is the aam aadmi. That is not the aam aadmi I refer to,

although the person is as human as the poor who I refer to as the aam aadmi.

 

 

And when there is development, people feel it. It's not like something

invisible like a ghost, which people can't understand.

 

And hence, you should have taken some time going through the statistics

rather than just writing a mail in haste. (My request or suggestion,

depending on how you take it)

 

3) Many people admonish the Lalu regime for many reasons. What people

however forget was the one decisive thing which Lalu gave to the backwards

and the oppressed castes, be it Dalits, Musahars or even tribals: sense of

dignity. Lalu meant dignity for them. He managed to win elections because

they knew that an upper caste ruling the state would mean upper castes

raping their women and destroying their dignity. Lalu rule brought that down

to a degree. Add to that the sense of protection he gave to Muslims, and you

get to understand why he was considered invincible.

 

Ironically, Lalu lost because of himself. Once he allowed this measure of

dignity the oppressed castes wanted development (which meant better

education and health services). Instead he promoted corruption and

deterioration of law and order.

 

Most importantly, an upper caste CM candidate from the opposition would have

brought Lalu again. But Nitish Kumar is from a backward caste, which is why

the other oppressed castes thought that he would ensure their sense of

dignity remains.

 

However, figures prove otherwise. Infact, the cases on domestic violence and

violence against women in general have increased under Nitish rule, whereas

under Lalu, it was the kidnapping industry which was much more in the news.

 

Please read another issue on law and order here, on this link.

 

http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?653718

 

I have a request again for all here on forum of Sarai. Instead of making

generalized useless statements, let's come out with facts and then debate.

And if you are instead only harping on your idea being right without facts

to support you, then please, don't expect me to believe you (howsoever much

others may be impressed with your jargon of words)

 

Rakesh

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