[Reader-list] KASAV VERDICT

[Bipin Trivedi]

Dear Shuddha,

I am talking particularly Kasav case where he was proved guilty well before
trial saw by whole world that was the point and not for any other in
general. What you are talking in general is ok. My point raised to you for
Kasav only. If you still believe if he is guilty fell sorry for that.

Not at all satisfied by what you are trying to convince. Most of the
criminals (not only terrorists) believes that they have not done anything
wrong does not mean what they did is right. Sorry, to tell but with your
explanation you are trying to convince that terrorists are right in their
acts in the name justice in their eye. This is real sorry state of your
thought.

Thanks
Bipin


From: Shuddhabrata Sengupta [mailto:shuddha at sarai.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:12 PM
To: Bipin Trivedi
Cc: sarai-list
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] KASAV VERDICT

Mr. Trivedi, 

In any trial, there is the possibility that the defendent will be acquitted.
Otherwise it would not be a trial. The guilt or innocence of Kasab, or of
any defendent, in a legal sense, is not for you or for me to decide, it is
for the judge. And the judge does so depending on the evidence that is
presented to him by the advocates who speak for the prosecution and for the
defence. If the evidence suggests guilt to the judge, no doubt he will
pronounce him guilty. Then we can argue over whether or not the judge
delivered a fair verdict. But until such time as the judge pronounces his
sentence, the only thing we can begin to speak of his fate is in the terms
of  - 'if' he is guilty. 

I oppose capital punishment, no matter who is to be hanged, and for what
crime, for the same reason which makes me oppose the decision of someone
like Kasab (if he is indeed found guilty) to be an executioner in the
streets of Bombay on 26.11.2008. If Kasab is proven to be the killer that
the prosecution says he is, then no doubt part of his motivation will be
seen to be his own twisted notion of justice. He too will then justify his
conduct, not on the grounds of lowly self defence ( a ground on which i can
justify violence) but  on the grounds of his sense of having to avenge what
he pereceives terrible wrongs. Just as you want the state to do by killing
him. What then, is the difference between his sense of justice and yours? 

Finally, I simply do not want to see the taxes I pay to the state being used
to commit pre-meditated slaughter. 

I hope that gives you a sense of why I do not feel the need to say sorry for
what I feel. 

best

Shuddha

On 03-May-10, at 8:52 PM, Bipin Trivedi wrote:


If he is guilty? Do you have any doubt about brutal terror act and guilt of
Kasav? It is surprising statement and feel sorry for your thought. For his
guilt, no judge analysis is required and even small children also can
understand for his brutal act and guilt.
 
You prefer life imprisonment for whom? Who killed Indian and other people
and the same Indian tax payers’ money to spent for his lifelong
imprisonment. Again feel sorry for your thought.
 
 
From: Shuddhabrata Sengupta [mailto:shuddha at sarai.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:14 PM
To: Bipin Trivedi
Cc: sarai-list
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] KASAV VERDICT
 
if he is found guilty, then life imprisonment, based on the quantum of his
crimes. I remain opposed to the awarding of capital punishment under any
circumstances. 
 
 
On 03-May-10, at 12:12 PM, Bipin Trivedi wrote:



TODAY IS THE DAY OF AJMAL KASAV VERDICT. 
 
 
 
What do you think, what should be the punishment for him?
 
 
 
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Shuddhabrata Sengupta
The Sarai Programme at CSDS
Raqs Media Collective
shuddha at sarai.net
www.sarai.net
www.raqsmediacollective.net