[Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration

TaraPrakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Wed May 5 20:58:12 IST 2010 

Oh well, we saw minorities being pitted against same sex marriages in 
California (prob 8?)

At a lot of places, African American community is also being coopted by 
anti-abortion militants. And now this?

And then we complain about racism? discrimination?

Wonder what if Arizona type of laws were present before white people reached 
US?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul D. Miller" <anansi1 at earthlink.net>
To: "Udai Malhotra" <udaimalhotra at gmail.com>
Cc: <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration


> I'm transferring at Frankfurt airport, and took a quick glance at this
> video. I find it sad and appalling.
>
> It's galvinized me as an African American to build even more bridges
> between communities.
>
> Minorities only get played against one another when this kind of thing
> happens, and the end result is everyone loses.
>
> This kind of stuff is so dumb, it's ridiculous.
>
> It really saddens me to see fellow African Americans being played by
> right wing types.
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 5, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Udai Malhotra <udaimalhotra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Joshua,
>>
>> What is the point you are trying to make by linking to this video?
>> If anything it is reinforcing that you are on some straight ignorant
>> shit.
>>
>> - Udai
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmjPgyN36g&NR=1
>>
>>  -jmz
>>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Paul D. Miller
>> <anansi1 at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>> > Again - this is strange non sense.
>> > 1) the track is a free giveaway so no paycheck etc
>> >
>> > Josh - this is stupid. Either up the level of the discourse or
>> come up with
>> > something more interesting.
>> >
>> > I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that would say
>> either me or
>> > Chuck D are racist, and no, Flava Flav isn't on the track. So...
>> >
>> > What's your point? I'm just getting on a flight to Khartoum, Sudan
>> for a
>> > project with ex child soldiers doing electronic music.
>> >
>> > Josh - if you would like to dialog about the merits of Arizona's
>> > immigration, that's ok. But being an asshole, as we've seen in
>> Arizona,
>> > doesn't solve anyone's problems.
>> >
>> > By the way way, no, I'm not racist, and no, Public Enemy isn't
>> racist.
>> >
>> > And I have nothing to do with Al Sharpton.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On May 4, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >   sorry for getting all up in your grill hommie, but racism cuts
>> both ways.
>> >
>> >   maybe you can get Flavor Flav all up in hizouse too?
>> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok>
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok
>> >
>> >   it's pretty simple that illegal aliens are modern day slavery
>> and they
>> > destroy the lives of white and black Americans alike.
>> Unfortunately we've
>> > got selllouts like you who are willing to say anything for a
>> paycheck.
>> >
>> >   check ya later holmes, jmz
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Paul D. Miller < 
>> > <anansi1 at earthlink.net
>> >
>> > anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Very strange and reactionary response.
>> >>
>> >> Joshua - can you please enlighten me on my 'racist politics' and my
>> >> relationship to Al Sharpton?
>> >>
>> >> You're sounding a bit shrill and to be completely honest, totally
>> >> irrational.
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On May 4, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>> >> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   I'm writing this from the Arizona Capitol.
>> >>
>> >>   Paul, we don't want your racist politics here.  Al Sharpton has
>> nothing
>> >> in common with the illegal aliens.  You are not only a traitor to
>> your
>> >> country but a traitor to your own people.  How can you turn
>> against a
>> >> country that has given you so much?
>> >>
>> >>   we do remember history.  We remember it very well.
>> >>
>> >>   Check it: 
>> >> <http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000
>> ><http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000>
>> >> http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000
>> >>
>> >>   -jmz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Paul D. Miller < 
>> >> <anansi1 at earthlink.net
>> ><anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>> >> anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hey people - I just finished a studio session with Chuck D from
>> Public
>> >>> Enemy. In the wake of Republican Governor Jan Brewer's appalling
>> >>> anti-immigrant law, me and Chuck D were rappin' and we decided
>> to put
>> >>> together an update of his classic track "By The Time I get To
>> Arizona."
>> >>>
>> >>> You can download the track from here:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>> <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>> >
>> >>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone who knows about hip hop from the early 90's remembers John
>> >>> McCain's unwillingness to endorse creating a local version of
>> Martin Luther
>> >>> King's birthday. The update here is a 21st century look in the
>> rear view
>> >>> mirror. The cliché that "those who don't learn from the past are
>>  doomed to
>> >>> repeat it" still holds sway in our hyper amnesiac culture. I
>> remixed D.W.
>> >>> Griffith's infamous film Birth of a Nation  with a bit of Public
>> Enemy in
>> >>> mind, and later on, they named an e.p. with the same name as my
>> project. Me
>> >>> and Chuck D have done several projects in the past around
>> progressive, non
>> >>> knucklehead hip hop.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please feel free to download this track and pass it around. We
>> are the
>> >>> media. Feel free to pass it around!
>> >>>
>> >>> By the way, this is a mashup, and it's basically not really for
>> sale. I
>> >>> just took a riff from Philly Sound 
>> >>> (<http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com
>> ><http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>
>> >>> www.funkadelphiarecords.com), and flipped it. The result, is
>> what you
>> >>> hear here. It's free, and open. No $!!
>> >>> You can download a better resolution version of the track here:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> >>> <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>> >
>> >>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>> >>>
>> >>> Check it!
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
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