[Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration

TaraPrakash taraprakash at gmail.com
Wed May 5 21:51:07 IST 2010 

Ever heard of Edgar Hoover? He always linked Martin Luther King with the 
communists and anti-nationals. Evern heard of likes of Rush and Glenn Beck? 
They find any kind of social justice linked to communism.

Let me come to Paul Miller being a traitor. Remember the founding fathers of 
this country were called traitors by the British government and the 
loyalists? Oh no!!! There is no history!!! It died with USSR, when Fukoyama 
declared it dead. And then it died with Obama becoming the president. 
History was turned up side down, so was racism. Liberty and equality 
attained a new meaning, and so did the civil rights.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Zeidner" <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
To: <reader-list at sarai.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: [Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration


>  On the contrary,  the African Americans are getting played by left wing
> and the likes of Al Sharpton this time.
>
>   I was at the capitol yesterday, there was a nice young African American
> girl who was vocally against the pro-Mexico demonstrators.  She came down
> here because she couldn't find a job in LA.  She shouted: "this is the new
> color of conservatism".
>
>  We've never had slavery in Arizona.  It was formed after the civil war.
> The African Americans played a critical role in the establishment of our
> state.
>
>  -jmz
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Paul D. Miller 
> <anansi1 at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>> I'm transferring at Frankfurt airport, and took a quick glance at this
>> video. I find it sad and appalling.
>>
>> It's galvinized me as an African American to build even more bridges
>> between communities.
>>
>> Minorities only get played against one another when this kind of thing
>> happens, and the end result is everyone loses.
>>
>> This kind of stuff is so dumb, it's ridiculous.
>>
>> It really saddens me to see fellow African Americans being played by 
>> right
>> wing types.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 5, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Udai Malhotra <udaimalhotra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Joshua,
>>
>> What is the point you are trying to make by linking to this video? If
>> anything it is reinforcing that you are on some straight ignorant shit.
>>
>> - Udai
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmjPgyN36g&NR=1>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmjPgyN36g&NR=1
>>>
>>>  -jmz
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Paul D. Miller < <anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>> anansi1 at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Again - this is strange non sense.
>>> > 1) the track is a free giveaway so no paycheck etc
>>> >
>>> > Josh - this is stupid. Either up the level of the discourse or come up
>>> with
>>> > something more interesting.
>>> >
>>> > I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that would say either me
>>> or
>>> > Chuck D are racist, and no, Flava Flav isn't on the track. So...
>>> >
>>> > What's your point? I'm just getting on a flight to Khartoum, Sudan for 
>>> > a
>>> > project with ex child soldiers doing electronic music.
>>> >
>>> > Josh - if you would like to dialog about the merits of Arizona's
>>> > immigration, that's ok. But being an asshole, as we've seen in 
>>> > Arizona,
>>> > doesn't solve anyone's problems.
>>> >
>>> > By the way way, no, I'm not racist, and no, Public Enemy isn't racist.
>>> >
>>> > And I have nothing to do with Al Sharpton.
>>> >
>>> > Paul
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On May 4, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>>> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   sorry for getting all up in your grill hommie, but racism cuts both
>>> ways.
>>> >
>>> >   maybe you can get Flavor Flav all up in hizouse too?
>>> > < <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok>
>>> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhpB1X-6ok
>>> >
>>> >   it's pretty simple that illegal aliens are modern day slavery and 
>>> > they
>>> > destroy the lives of white and black Americans alike.  Unfortunately
>>> we've
>>> > got selllouts like you who are willing to say anything for a paycheck.
>>> >
>>> >   check ya later holmes, jmz
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Paul D. Miller < 
>>> > <<anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>> anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>> > <anansi1 at earthlink.net>anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Very strange and reactionary response.
>>> >>
>>> >> Joshua - can you please enlighten me on my 'racist politics' and my
>>> >> relationship to Al Sharpton?
>>> >>
>>> >> You're sounding a bit shrill and to be completely honest, totally
>>> >> irrational.
>>> >>
>>> >> Paul
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On May 4, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Joshua Zeidner < < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>>> jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>>> >> <jjzeidner at gmail.com>jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>   I'm writing this from the Arizona Capitol.
>>> >>
>>> >>   Paul, we don't want your racist politics here.  Al Sharpton has
>>> nothing
>>> >> in common with the illegal aliens.  You are not only a traitor to 
>>> >> your
>>> >> country but a traitor to your own people.  How can you turn against a
>>> >> country that has given you so much?
>>> >>
>>> >>   we do remember history.  We remember it very well.
>>> >>
>>> >>   Check it: 
>>> >> <<http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000>
>>> http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000><<http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000>
>>> http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000>
>>> >> <http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000>
>>> http://www.buffalosoldiermuseum.com/?linkid=410&webid=1000
>>> >>
>>> >>   -jmz
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Paul D. Miller < 
>>> >> <<anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>> anansi1 at earthlink.net>< <anansi1 at earthlink.net>anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>> >> <anansi1 at earthlink.net>anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hey people - I just finished a studio session with Chuck D from 
>>> >>> Public
>>> >>> Enemy. In the wake of Republican Governor Jan Brewer's appalling
>>> >>> anti-immigrant law, me and Chuck D were rappin' and we decided to 
>>> >>> put
>>> >>> together an update of his classic track "By The Time I get To
>>> Arizona."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You can download the track from here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  < <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><<http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> >>> <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyone who knows about hip hop from the early 90's remembers John
>>> >>> McCain's unwillingness to endorse creating a local version of Martin
>>> Luther
>>> >>> King's birthday. The update here is a 21st century look in the rear
>>> view
>>> >>> mirror. The cliché that "those who don't learn from the past are
>>> doomed to
>>> >>> repeat it" still holds sway in our hyper amnesiac culture. I remixed
>>> D.W.
>>> >>> Griffith's infamous film Birth of a Nation  with a bit of Public 
>>> >>> Enemy
>>> in
>>> >>> mind, and later on, they named an e.p. with the same name as my
>>> project. Me
>>> >>> and Chuck D have done several projects in the past around 
>>> >>> progressive,
>>> non
>>> >>> knucklehead hip hop.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please feel free to download this track and pass it around. We are 
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> media. Feel free to pass it around!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> By the way, this is a mashup, and it's basically not really for 
>>> >>> sale.
>>> I
>>> >>> just took a riff from Philly Sound 
>>> >>> (<<http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>
>>> http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>< 
>>> <http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>
>>> http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>
>>> >>> <http://www.funkadelphiarecords.com>www.funkadelphiarecords.com), 
>>> >>> and
>>> flipped it. The result, is what you
>>> >>> hear here. It's free, and open. No $!!
>>> >>> You can download a better resolution version of the track here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  < <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><<http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> >>> <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Check it!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Paul
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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