[Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration

Sun May 9 23:11:23 IST 2010

how is it that spam bots (tickets sent out from sarai address___)
and josh arrived on this list at the same time. any mystery here?

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi habibi,
>
>   Cuts and runs?  I don't think so.
>
>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4&feature=fvw
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> -jmz
>
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This guy is not worth arguing with. he does not concede on arguments.
>> if i remember correctly he was also on early rhizome-raw.
>> and then he cuts and runs.
>> سلام   שָׁלוֹם
>>  y
>>
>> ps: give my regards to israeli butchers.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Paul D. Miller <anansi1 at earthlink.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, I don't think all Republicans are moronic hippocrites. Lincoln
>> > was pretty intriguing, and as bad as Nixon was, he expanded public parks
>> and
>> > created alot of nature reserves...
>> >
>> > But yeah. Republicans always take some kind of 'high horse' type
>> situation
>> > that only works if you don't pay attention to details - which
>> regretfully,
>> > too many Americans don't.
>> >
>> > I'll give Republicans credit though - for being relentlessly evil. It's
>> > intriguing. They never, ever stop.
>> >
>> > But, no, not all evil comes from Republicans. Usually the culprit is
>> > basically just plain unwillingness to think about facts and complexity.
>> > Republicans usually want really simple answers for very complex
>> situations.
>> > It's a tragedy for the 21st century that they are taken even vaguely
>> > serious.
>> >
>> > Remember those good old 'weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?' or the db
>> > gay marriage scare of the last election? Or Sarah Palins hilarious take
>> on
>> > geo-politics that was worthy of Saturday Nite Live?
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On May 9, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >   What is your point, Paul?
>> >
>> >   that all evil stems from the Republican Party and 'right wingers'?
>> >
>> >   -jmz
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Paul D. Miller < <anansi1 at earthlink.net
>> >
>> > anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Which class of Muslim? The Saudi's? Ask Bush-Bandar...
>> >>
>> >> This is a retarded question - there are many kinds of Muslim. An many
>> >> Iranian Americans (yes, Sunni...), vote Republican, like conservative
>> >> Cubans. Look what good voting for Rebulicans has done either of their
>> >> countries....
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On May 9, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>> >> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  Paul,
>> >>
>> >>    then why do Muslims vote overwhelmingly Democrat?
>> >>
>> >>  -jmz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Paul D. Miller < <
>> anansi1 at earthlink.net><anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>
>> >> anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Let's see who is making excuses for Islamic terrorism:
>> >>>
>> >>> Bush - whose cozy relationship with te Bin Laden family and Saudi
>> >>> Monarchy set the stage for several of the major developments leading
>> to 9/11
>> >>>
>> >>> Or Halliburton/Dick Cheney who do major oil contract work for Saudi
>> >>> companies and even violate US sanctions on Iran?
>> >>>
>> >>> The right wing always has selective amnesia...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com><
>> jjzeidner at gmail.com>
>>
>> >>> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>   Hi Yasir!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   Still making excuses for Islamic terrorism?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  -jmz
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:00 AM, yasir ~يا سر < <
>> yasir.media at gmail.com><yasir.media at gmail.com>
>>
>> >>>> yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  You've diagnosed this one properly. Josh goes back to the thingist
>> list
>> >>>>> around 2001-4. i see he's still spouting and needessly
>> small-mindedly
>> >>>>> arguing. its best to just ignore him and not engage.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> best
>> >>>>> yasir
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Paul D. Miller <<
>> anansi1 at earthlink.net><anansi1 at earthlink.net>
>>
>> >>>>> anansi1 at earthlink.net
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  Hello to Josh and the Sarai list. I apologize about the delay in
>> >>>>>> communication, but I had a concert in Khartoum, Sudan, and there
>> were
>> >>>>>> thousands of people at the show, and it was a demonstration of some
>> of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> unique qualities of why reaching out past the norms of the kind of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> paranoid
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> scenarios Josh has been spouting on the list is exactly what I
>> think
>> >>>>>> the
>> >>>>>> world needs more of.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> To those on the list that haven't heard the track I did with Public
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Enemy,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> you can hear it here:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><
>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
>>
>> >>>>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> And yo Josh - screw your crappy music taste...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Josh - why do you think that the Phoenix Suns has changed their
>> name
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>> "Los Suns":
>> >>>>>> Team owner Robert Sarver says the Spanish jersey is meant to,
>> quote,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> "honor
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> our Latino community and the diversity of our league, the state of
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Arizona
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> and our nation."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The Arizona reactionary stance towards immigration is what I think
>> is
>> >>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> betrayal of the country, and I believe that naive people like the
>> >>>>>> right
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> wing
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> types who espouse it have no idea about the economics of what
>> they're
>> >>>>>> talking about. The trouble is that as a larger political ideology,
>> its
>> >>>>>> hateful and divisive message is encouraging ever more misguided
>> >>>>>> madness.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Some examples:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Read more:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> <
>> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
>> ><
>> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
>> >
>>
>> >>>>>
>> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The problem is this: you can't argue with right wing lunatics like
>> >>>>>> Josh -
>> >>>>>> facts don't matter. We learned this during the Bush era, and we've
>> >>>>>> seen
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Tea Party idiots doing the same thing. I belong in what I like to
>> >>>>>> call,
>> >>>>>> ironically, after Bush, "the reality based community."
>> Interdependence
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> hyper glob
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
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