[Reader-list] Public Enemy vs Arizona: Sonic Immigration

Joshua Zeidner jjzeidner at gmail.com
Sun May 9 23:27:47 IST 2010 

  What's the matter, Yasir?  You didn't like the TV show?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlxvMYu28Y&feature=related

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlxvMYu28Y&feature=related>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_3RUwAJ_MI&feature=related

  -jmz

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:

> how is it that spam bots (tickets sent out from sarai address___)
> and josh arrived on this list at the same time. any mystery here?
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi habibi,
> >
> >   Cuts and runs?  I don't think so.
> >
> >   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4&feature=fvw
> >
> > -jmz
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM, yasir ~يا سر <yasir.media at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> This guy is not worth arguing with. he does not concede on arguments.
> >> if i remember correctly he was also on early rhizome-raw.
> >> and then he cuts and runs.
> >> سلام   שָׁלוֹם
> >>  y
> >>
> >> ps: give my regards to israeli butchers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Paul D. Miller <anansi1 at earthlink.net
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually, I don't think all Republicans are moronic hippocrites.
> Lincoln
> >> > was pretty intriguing, and as bad as Nixon was, he expanded public
> parks
> >> and
> >> > created alot of nature reserves...
> >> >
> >> > But yeah. Republicans always take some kind of 'high horse' type
> >> situation
> >> > that only works if you don't pay attention to details - which
> >> regretfully,
> >> > too many Americans don't.
> >> >
> >> > I'll give Republicans credit though - for being relentlessly evil.
> It's
> >> > intriguing. They never, ever stop.
> >> >
> >> > But, no, not all evil comes from Republicans. Usually the culprit is
> >> > basically just plain unwillingness to think about facts and
> complexity.
> >> > Republicans usually want really simple answers for very complex
> >> situations.
> >> > It's a tragedy for the 21st century that they are taken even vaguely
> >> > serious.
> >> >
> >> > Remember those good old 'weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?' or the
> db
> >> > gay marriage scare of the last election? Or Sarah Palins hilarious
> take
> >> on
> >> > geo-politics that was worthy of Saturday Nite Live?
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > On May 9, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >   What is your point, Paul?
> >> >
> >> >   that all evil stems from the Republican Party and 'right wingers'?
> >> >
> >> >   -jmz
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Paul D. Miller < <
> anansi1 at earthlink.net
> >> >
> >> > anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Which class of Muslim? The Saudi's? Ask Bush-Bandar...
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a retarded question - there are many kinds of Muslim. An many
> >> >> Iranian Americans (yes, Sunni...), vote Republican, like conservative
> >> >> Cubans. Look what good voting for Rebulicans has done either of their
> >> >> countries....
> >> >>
> >> >> Paul
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>
> >> >> On May 9, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> >> >> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  Paul,
> >> >>
> >> >>    then why do Muslims vote overwhelmingly Democrat?
> >> >>
> >> >>  -jmz
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Paul D. Miller < <
> >> anansi1 at earthlink.net><anansi1 at earthlink.net>
> >>
> >> >> anansi1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Let's see who is making excuses for Islamic terrorism:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Bush - whose cozy relationship with te Bin Laden family and Saudi
> >> >>> Monarchy set the stage for several of the major developments leading
> >> to 9/11
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Or Halliburton/Dick Cheney who do major oil contract work for Saudi
> >> >>> companies and even violate US sanctions on Iran?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The right wing always has selective amnesia...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Paul
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On May 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Joshua Zeidner < <jjzeidner at gmail.com><
> >> jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> >>> jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>   Hi Yasir!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>   Still making excuses for Islamic terrorism?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>  -jmz
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:00 AM, yasir ~يا سر < <
> >> yasir.media at gmail.com><yasir.media at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> >>>> yasir.media at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>  You've diagnosed this one properly. Josh goes back to the thingist
> >> list
> >> >>>>> around 2001-4. i see he's still spouting and needessly
> >> small-mindedly
> >> >>>>> arguing. its best to just ignore him and not engage.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> best
> >> >>>>> yasir
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Paul D. Miller <<
> >> anansi1 at earthlink.net><anansi1 at earthlink.net>
> >>
> >> >>>>> anansi1 at earthlink.net
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>  Hello to Josh and the Sarai list. I apologize about the delay in
> >> >>>>>> communication, but I had a concert in Khartoum, Sudan, and there
> >> were
> >> >>>>>> thousands of people at the show, and it was a demonstration of
> some
> >> of
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> unique qualities of why reaching out past the norms of the kind
> of
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> paranoid
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> scenarios Josh has been spouting on the list is exactly what I
> >> think
> >> >>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>> world needs more of.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> To those on the list that haven't heard the track I did with
> Public
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> Enemy,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> you can hear it here:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>  <http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html><
> >> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html>
> >>
> >> >>>>>> http://www.djspooky.com/music_download_form.html
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> And yo Josh - screw your crappy music taste...
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Josh - why do you think that the Phoenix Suns has changed their
> >> name
> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>> "Los Suns":
> >> >>>>>> Team owner Robert Sarver says the Spanish jersey is meant to,
> >> quote,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> "honor
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> our Latino community and the diversity of our league, the state
> of
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> Arizona
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> and our nation."
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The Arizona reactionary stance towards immigration is what I
> think
> >> is
> >> >>>>>> a
> >> >>>>>> betrayal of the country, and I believe that naive people like the
> >> >>>>>> right
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> wing
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> types who espouse it have no idea about the economics of what
> >> they're
> >> >>>>>> talking about. The trouble is that as a larger political
> ideology,
> >> its
> >> >>>>>> hateful and divisive message is encouraging ever more misguided
> >> >>>>>> madness.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Some examples:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Read more:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> <
> >>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
> >> ><
> >>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
> >> >
> >>
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/05/05/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-gives-kudos-arizona-basketball-team-protesting-#ixzz0nLQzAkyL
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> The problem is this: you can't argue with right wing lunatics
> like
> >> >>>>>> Josh -
> >> >>>>>> facts don't matter. We learned this during the Bush era, and
> we've
> >> >>>>>> seen
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Tea Party idiots doing the same thing. I belong in what I like to
> >> >>>>>> call,
> >> >>>>>> ironically, after Bush, "the reality based community."
> >> Interdependence
> >> >>>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> hyper glob
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> >
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