[Reader-list] UID CARD

[Bipin Trivedi]

Dear Taha,

I read all the topic discussion mails. But I have asked this question 3
times to you but did not reply by you to me. Anyway, so you don't see any
credible option to disclose the identity for census than why only oppose to
UID on identity point of view. 

Irrespective of UID would be there or not your identity will remain as Taha
and till today you remain Taha is just continuous statement with this to
explain. 

I don't want to go with the Illegal migration taken place till date for
whatever reason in the past. But, I believe with UID such a people can be
rectify easily and can be sent back immediately. Definitely illegal migrant
like Bangladeshis are not at all Indian? Why you ask such question itself is
questionable. BSF are not only and solely responsible. If state government
remains firm for not allowing infiltration then BSF will not dare to allow.
So, first culprit is vote seeker and so called secular politicians. But,
till date those who have got ration card, voter rights and other things with
the help of rotten politician, we have to consider them as Indian. However,
if we not stop illegal migration/infiltration India will definitely cross 2
billion population perhaps in couple of decades and that situation, poverty,
HDI will be even worse. However, nobody thinks on war-foot basis on
population control. I will give 1 ex. of Mumbai city. Water supply capacity
of Mumbai city for about 1 crore population, but Mumbai has population of
about 1.5 crore. This is more or less situation in all the cities/towns.

According to you those family living in India for about 100 years without
record is just unbelievable. I do not think this is true. But even if it is
true then I consider this as fault from their part to perform their duty or
willingly they don't want to get registered or don't want to cooperate when
government official went there for noting purpose. Note that ration card,
driving license or any other things if you want, you have to go and get and
government cannot come to your home to allot you. My key argument was this
only many time that India leg behind in efficiency, discipline, humanity
because of their failure to perform duty honestly and sincerely. Apart from
their job duty, one must show alertness towards their duty for family,
society, village/town/city, state, nation and by that way contribute to
strengthen the democracy.

Yes, it is true that government must provide the facilities of pee and shit
to everyone. But, I have noticed in many places that near huts/chawl there
is public toilet but still many people/children does pee/shit in open only.
This behavior of public also restricts government to build more such
facilities. Lack of discipline and public attitude is also biggest drawback
for development particularly HDI.

Thanks
Bipin





-----Original Message-----
From: Taha Mehmood [mailto:2tahamehmood at googlemail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 6:42 PM
To: Bipin Trivedi
Cc: sarai-list
Subject: UID CARD Doubts

Dear Bipin,

It seems that you read only those mails which are addressed to you
otherwise you may have recalled that while replying to Shahidhar's
mail I had categorically said that I do not have any problem with
Census. May I add that, although it is a somewhat awkward way of
looking at people but at the moment we do not seem to have other
credible options.

-Till today you remain as Taha-

What exactly do you mean by this statement?

See I get a feeling that somehow you know the true nature of identity
but for some reason you do not want to share it with us. Are you shy?
Can I suggest something, if you are then please don't be. Please
explain your point of view in a forthright manner. Share with us the
nature of identity.

Why don't you just clear this fuzziness of identity and we take it from
there?

-With UID allotted to all Indians-

How do you know that UID will be allotted to 'Indians' only? Do
Bengalis from Bangladesh look different from Bengalis from Bengal? Or
do you think that none of them have access to a legitimate voter ID
card, or passport, or a ration card? Don't you think we must invest in
making the corrupt BSF more efficient in tackling this rather than
focus on UID? It's cost efficient as well.

And what about a person whose family is living in India for hundreds
of years but has no records, no documents to prove he is who he claims
to be and no one else to introduce him to a UID official, do you think
he will get a UID number as well? If not, then in this case could we
deem UID as an unjust exercise? Wouldn't it be a huge wastage of
public funds in invest in such a exercise?

We need technology Bipin. That's for sure. I would applaud any
political party which shows will, grit, determination, and resilience
to establish an intricate network of sewers all across the country.
Wouldn't it be nice to live in a country where everyone has a place to
pee and shit. Then and only then could we have a certain basic dignity
of living in India, wouldn't you agree with? We are poor country. We
don't have enough resources to dispose on anything which catches our
fancy. We don't and we are doing it with UID and that's a matter of
great shame isn't it.

No UID card can alleviate that, can it? And what identity database
does a government need to build a network of sewers across the
country, tell me? and don't we urgently need a technology which can
harness the daily waste of a billion Indians and not a fancy identity
card which is based on a deeply fuzzy logic? Wouldn't you agree with
me? Wouldn't most Indians be more happy if they can live without
facing the indignity of shitting and peeing in public?

Warm regards

Taha