[Reader-list] Personal Identity Data and its use in Mass Murder

[A.K. Malik]

Hi Taha,
         For once I agree you may have a valid point to some extent.From some of the horror stories of the partition I heard from my elders,  groups would want to kill some of its opposite religion's person they would undress the fellow and see whether the person had undergone Sunnat(I hope it is the word really used) and after confirming would leave or kill the fellow.But this was not applicable to women who in any case were used for ulterior carnal desires by both communities where religion never had any role.
So now data can be used in a similar way but IDs wouldn't have any recognisable details other than names.Such an information is easily available locally who is a Muslim, Hindu or Christian in a Mohalla.1984 riots took place when Sikhs were physically identifiable.Certain things you have to live with.
Cases of misuse of data: You can see the entire voters' list in State Election Commission's websites which is available right now.Any one use or misuse it.UPSC used to collect lot of data for IAS aspirants, I know several cases when the data were used for matrimonial purposes getting the details of persons from specific castes.I still don't know whether the data were officially made available or obtained otherwise.
Taha, I have quoted the instances of knife being used as a murder weapon in some cases, would you then agree that the knife be not used in kitchens or the manufacture of knives be banned in the country.
Apply the same to UID project and review your opinion about the project.And in any case who listens to us writing in a restricted sample, the Govt of India may further go ahead in Caste based census where the data are in absolute public domain.Intelligensia has always suffered while fanatics gain prominence.
With warm regards,
 
(A.K.MALIK)


--- On Mon, 5/31/10, Taha Mehmood <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Taha Mehmood <2tahamehmood at googlemail.com>
> Subject: [Reader-list] Personal Identity Data and its use in Mass Murder
> To: "Sarai Reader-list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 5:09 PM
> Dear All
> 
> Especially to all those enlightened souls on this list who
> seem to
> miss the point. Please answer: Is personal identity data
> not used in
> some forms of communal rioting? If yes, then is it a crime
> to think
> about a harmful aspect of such databases, especially at a
> time when a
> state is asking us to give our fingerprints and iris scans?
> Why can't
> one talk about how state plans to safeguard data with
> respect to
> personal identities?
> 
> Warm regards
> 
> Taha
> 
> Some more examples: Dear Shashi, Bipin, AK Malik and Rahul-
> I really
> want to thank you guys for opposing my view for it makes me
> more
> determined to question my beliefs and fetch out instances
> which makes
> we want to look at some things in the way I do. Please keep
> on
> replying to my posts. Every post you make is an opportunity
> for me to
> revisit, reexamine and test my view. I look forward to your
> responses.
> 
> Please read these instances below and please tell me, is it
> not that
> apart from its proposed utilitarian aspects, data on
> personal identity
> can also be used to orchestrate mass violence? If you can
> see a
> correlation then may I most humbly ask, why should we not
> question,
> critique and thoroughly examine Unique Fake Identity
> Authority of
> India's claim that data will be secure?
> 
> 1. In retaliation, on July 23 Tamil families were attacked
> at home and
> work. With voter lists in hand, rioters systematically
> looted and
> burned down hundreds of Tamil homes.
> http://www.blackjuly83.com/Media.htm
> 
> 2. Sinhalese rioters in Colombo used voter lists containing
> home
> addresses to make precise attacks on the Tamil community.
> From
> Colombo, the anti-Tamil violence fanned out to the entire
> island. The
> psychological effects of this violence on Sri Lanka's
> complex and
> divided society were still being assessed in the late
> 1980s.
> http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/sri_lanka2.htm
> 
> 3. We all know about the use of voters' lists to target
> members of a
> minority community. I can attest from my 1984 experience
> that the
> voter-list theory of riots isn't made up; I saw them being
> used with
> my own eyes.
> http://www.indiatogether.org/2009/oct/rkr-1984.htm
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