[Reader-list] advocacy of violence on 'Kafila'

[Jeebesh]

Sorry. This is not much of a thinking. just self righteousness pious  
posturing :)

On 24-Nov-10, at 2:11 PM, Aalok Aima wrote:

> tara prakash
>
> i agree ..... a very positive and commendable step that from the  
> article the lines advocating violence have been removed
>
> something else has been teasing my mind
>
> violence is a crime, advocating violence (the writer hilal mir) is a  
> crime, knowingly providing a platform for advocacy of violence is a  
> crime ...... i see shivam vij and/or kafila complicit in that crime
>
> is it enough to just remove the 'lines'? one person Tariq was  
> already provoked by the article into declaring "Here I am with a  
> stone in my hand ready to hurl at them." (that comment has also been  
> removed now)
>
> i have been thinking .......
>
> the bjp chief minister of karnataka has been accused of illegalities  
> in allocation of state-land to his family members ...... the family  
> members then surrender those lands ...... is that enough? does that  
> wash out the crime?
>
> defence personell have been accused of illegally receiving allotment  
> of flats in the 'adarsh housing scam' in mumbai ....... they then  
> surrender those flats ...... is that enough? is their complicity in  
> a crime negated?
>
> we in public space, cannot be kangaroo courts to levy penalties or  
> give punishments ....... but we in public space do have a right to  
> expect an acknowledgement of the crime and at the very least an  
> apology ........ whether it comes from yeddyurappa of karnataka or  
> from the defence personell in mumbai ..... or from shivam vij and/or  
> kafila
>
> i am expecting too much i guess
>
> .......... aalok aima
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 11/23/10, TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: TaraPrakash <taraprakash at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] advocacy of violence on 'Kafila'
> To: "Aalok Aima" <aalok.aima at yahoo.com>, "reader-list list" <reader-list at sarai.net 
> >
> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 7:10 PM
>
>
> You should give the administrator or the writer of the post credit  
> for this. You pointed to a wrong kind of message and they removed  
> it. Isn't it a corrective action?
> You should also note that the kind of people on Kafila are too  
> cowardly (emancipated?) to do any violence by themselves. The kind  
> of people who can do it don't read Kafila. Some of their's support  
> to violence is known to the readers on this list. If the deplorable  
> comments inciting violence are removed, it should seen a positive  
> and commendible step on part of the person who removed them.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aalok Aima" <aalok.aima at yahoo.com>
> To: "reader-list list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 6:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] advocacy of violence on 'Kafila'
>
>
>> (someone from) 'Kafila' has now removed the finale lines "Beware,  
>> the farce called panchayat elections is round the corner. Throw  
>> some stones. Virtual or real. Stop them. You owe this to those 110  
>> warm-blooded martyrs."
>>
>> (my comment on the lines also has been deleted)
>>
>> as of this moment, comment by one Tariq is still available "Here I  
>> am with a stone in my hand ready to hurl at them."
>>
>> the article including the lines i had highlighted is available (as  
>> of now) at:
>>
>> http://www.kashmirdispatch.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=765:scavengers&catid=103:others&Itemid=497
>>
>>
>> ............ aalok aima
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 11/23/10, Aalok Aima <aalok.aima at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Aalok Aima <aalok.aima at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Reader-list] advocacy of violence on 'Kafila'
>> To: "reader-list list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:59 PM
>>
>>
>> "Beware, the farce called panchayat elections is round the corner.  
>> Throw some stones. Virtual or real. Stop them. You owe this to  
>> those 110 warm-blooded martyrs."
>>
>> that "Throw some stones. Virtual or real" is from a Guest post by  
>> HILAL MIR posted by Shivam Vij on 'Kafila' on 23/11/2010
>>
>> http://kafila.org/2010/11/23/scavengers-pdp-mufti-mehbooba-omar-kashmir-politics/
>>
>> in a thread aarti sethi (of kafila) wrote "Kafila set itself up  
>> with a very clear mandate – to articulate and represent voices and  
>> views that do not get an airing in the mainstream press."
>>
>> does that articulating and representing voices and views on  
>> 'kafila' include providing a platform for the advocacy of violence?
>>
>> ............ aalok aima
>>
>>
>>
>>
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