[Reader-list] "Kashmir: a place of blood and memory" Nitasha Kaul

Fri Sep 3 22:43:35 IST 2010

Hello Mr.Sanjay Kak,

      This is not an excellent piece, your view is totally dumb and let nitasha kaul know that her view in incorrect.  There are kings,scholors,temples contributed to INDIANNESS.  
I feel you should have a look at RAJATARANGINI for the record.  The population who ever are there shouting somuch in J&K are from recent past not ageold.  With this poor history   no one can say what is Integral part of INDIA and what is not.

MAYURA, BANA, HARSHAVARDHANA and many more who ever contributed to INDIA.  In particular MAYURA analyzed the sun in such a way that the kind of rays that the sun emit, their color,their wavelength, their hue etc and got his eye sight. SUN appeared to him and gave the vision once he finished this 100 stanza shatak.    Who ever study the particular stanzas will get the lost eyesight.  This is not million year history but just recent.  Fortunately that book and the shlokas din't ruined either in NALANDA or anywhere by a,b,c,d.  It is there everywhere in INDIA and it is referred so much.  The question of CHINA doesn't appear when it comes to J&K, because they don't know anything about India until Hsüan-tsang made a visit.  Next PAKISTAN a seperate country was created for the selfish JINNAH based on his 2 nation theory. By fearing violence Mr.Gandhi accepted it and since last 60 years there have been troubles. No question of PAKISTANI  claiming on
 occupied territories of J&K will arise, as the country itself  created by INDIA.  Who ever say whatever J&K is Integral part of INDIA and no body can comment or question.  Dear Sanjay Kak you are free to settle in PAKISTAN along with Nitasha kaul(if they allow) and likewise the seperatists.  

         Srinagar may or may not be shifted but it is there. The description is

1) as per LALITA SAHASRANAM(1000 names of lalita) from BRAHMADA PURANA let me bring you a verse describing godess LALITA DEVI  who used to stay in SRIPURA(srinagar).  The architect was VISWAKARMA and the description is 

      " Sumeru madhya srungastha 
Srimannagara nayika. "

 Mount Meru has 4 peaks 
One 
	on the eastern side, one on north west, one on the south west. Each is 
100 
	yojanas tall and 100 yojanas wide these are trimurtis worlds. In the 
center 
	of these is the fourth, which is 400 yojanas tall and 400 yojanas wide. Sripura(srinagar) is on the 
Middle 
	peak. Sripura has got metallic compound walls 7 in number they are 
square 
	shaped. Each wall is separated from the next one by one a distance of 7

	yojanas. 
   a.Kalayasa (iron) wall – The perimeter of this wall is 16 
thousand 
	yojanas. Kansya (bronze) wall—Between these two is the first chamber. 
	Several trees and gardens are located here. Mahakali and Mahakala are 
the 
	gate keepers here. Kalachakra is their throne. 

b.	Tamra (copper) wall - 
Here is 
	a forest of Kalpavruksha (wish granting tree). This is also called as 
	Kalpavatica. This is the second chamber. Vasanta (spring) is its 
protector .Madhusri 
	and Madhavasri are his consorts. 

	c.Seesa (lead) wall - Here
 is a 
	forest of santana trees (progeny granting). This is the third chamber 
	Grishma (summer) is the ruler . Shukrasri and Shuchisri are his 
consorts.

d.	Aarkuta (brass) wall - 
This 
	is the fourth chamber. Here is a forest of Hari chandanavruksha (yellow

	fragrant sandal wood). The ruler is varsharutu (rainy season. Nabhasri 
and 
	Nabhasyasri are his consorts. 

e.	Panchaloha (five metal) 
	wall—In this fifth chamber is a garden of mandara trees(Calotropis 
	gigantea).Sharadrutu is the protector. Ishasri and Urjasri are his 
consorts.

	f.Raupya (silver) wall – 
Sixth 
	chamber.Parijata tree forest .Hemantarutu is the protector. Sahasri and

	Sahasyasri are his consorts. 

	g.Hema (gold) wall - 
Seventh 
	chamber. Kadamba forest. Sisira (winter) s the protector. Tavasri and 
	Tavasyasri are his consorts. This is where Mantrini devi resides in a 
	temple. She has one more quarter very close to that of Lalita devi in 
	Mahapadmatavi( forest of lotuses). When she is on duty she stays in 
that 
	quarter. In this seventh chamber near Mantrini’s residence Matanga 
kanyas 
	are constantly singing and dancing. 

Inside the golden compound, there are eleven prakaras (compounds)
one inside the other and inside them there are six more compounds described
hereunder. All these compounds are perfect squares. Here also, the distance
between one compound and the other is Seven yojanas. (yojana is a measurement
of length of about nine miles). 

1. Pushyaraga Prakara (The compound of Topaz)
The area between the golden compound and this one is called Pushyaraga area.
Here male and female Siddhas reside. Those who were born earlier in the race of
Siddha and who obtained attainment (Siddhi) in their spiritual practices
worshipping the Divine Mother, stay here as Siddhas and gladly continue to
worship Her.

2. Padmaraga Prakara (The compound of Ruby)
Here celestials of the species called Caranas reside. Those who were born in
Carana world and worshipped the Mother are reborn here, after attaining Her
grace.

3. Gomedhika Prakara (The compound of Agate)
In this arena, Kala Sankarshani devi resides. She is worshipped by the Yoginis
and Bhairavas.

4. Vajra Prakara (The compound of diamonds)
Apsaras and Gandharvas (divine dancers and singers) stay in this arena. They
are ever engaged in the Japa (repetition) of the Divine Mother’s names and stay
here happily. The river Vajranadi flows in this place. The Goddess Vajreswari
stays here. When the demon Bhanda swallowed the diamond weapon (Vajra Ayudha)
of Indra, he could get back his weapon by worshipping the Mother here.

5. Vaidurya Prakara (The compound of Cat’s
eye) Those of the netherworld, who attained spiritual achievements by
worshipping the Mother, stay in this arena. The emperor Bali also resides here.

6. Indraneela Prakara (The compound of
Sapphire) Those people who were born on the earth stay in this area enjoying
pleasures, after their worship of Lalita during their lifetime there. Soon
after the effect of their punya (merit) is exhausted, they will be born again
as human beings on the earth. By the effect of their previous pious deeds, they
again worship the Mother and return once more to this pious place. Due to the
blue colour of these precious stones, the dark effect of likes and dislikes
persists in them. Hence they are born again and again. Those who can control
their senses to merge in the ultimate state of salvation, i.e., in the Divine
Mother. They do not have rebirth. 

7. Mukta Prakara (The compound of pearls)
Several rivers named Tamraparni, Mahaparni, Sadamukta, Sadodaka etc. flow in
this area. The celestials who worshipped the Mother and chanted her Mantras
stay here. The cities of the rulers of the eight sides exist here. (The eight
sides are East, West, North, South, North-East, South-East, North-West and
South-West).

8. Marakata Prakara (The compound of Emerald)
The abode of the Goddess Dandanatha also called Varahi exists in this area.
There is a garden of golden palm-trees here. The Goddess Unmattabhairavi,
Svapnesvari, Tiraskarinidevi, Kirapadadevi reside in this area. When Goddess
Dandanatha is on duty, she stays in a separate palace in the forest of Mahapadma
(Big lotuses). 

9. Vidruma Prakara (The compound of Coral) In
this area, Brahma along with sages like Marica stays and worship the
DivineMother. 

10.Manikya Prakara (The compound of Gem) This
area is also called the hall of gems i.e. Manikya Mantapa. Her Vishnu worships
the Mother. 

11. Navaratna Prakara (The compound of nine
precious stones) In this area exists a huge hall with thousands of pillars.
Here Siva along with his attendants constantly supervises the activities being
done as per the orders of Lalita Devi. 

12. Manomaya Prakara (The compound of mind)
The entire area is a big well of Amruta (nectar). The Goddess Tara resides
here. Along with her attendants, she rows a big boat and takes her devotees
inside along with Her. 

13. Buddhi Prakara (The compound of the
intellect) The entire area is a big well of Bliss. The captain of the ship in
this arena is the Goddess Varuni. She is also called as Sudha malini and
Amruteswari. 

14. Ahankara Prakara (The compound of Egoism)
The entire area is a big well of criticism and nectar; The water of this well
is nothing else than the nectar in the nerve Sushumna (The central nerve
between Ida and Pingala nerves of one’s backbone). The captain of the ship in
this area is the Goddess Kurukulla. 

15. Suryabimba Prakara (The compound of the
Sun) Here brilliance comparable to the light of the rising Sun exists always.
Plenty of flowers called Kuruvinda are abundant here. The Sun performed penance
here and obtained brilliance. Martanda Bhairava stays here. He has a very luminous
form. His three wives are Mahaprakasa Sakti, Cakshusmati Sakti and Chayada
Sakti (The powers of great brilliance, eyesight and shade). 

16. Candrabimba Prakasa (The compound of the
Moon) Moonshine ever exists here. The Moon performed penance here and attained
illumination. Somanatha, the Lord of the stars is the chief deity of this area.

17. Srungara Prakara (The compound of
eroticism) This area is full of waters of eroticism. Here Manmatha, (Cupid-the
god of love) does Japa of the Mother’s sacred names, rowing in a boat. Only
those who are of pure mind by nature can cross this area. 

18. Chintamani Gruha (The abode of Gems) This
is the great palace of Sri-chakra. It is called Mahapadmatavi also. Around the
mansion, hundreds of thousands of lotus like palaces exist. To the east of this
place, there is a large vessel with a diameter of one Yojana. This is called
Arghya Patra (the vessel used to wash hands) b) At the south-east corner exists
Cidagnikunda (The fire pit of knowledge). At the south-west exists Srichakra
Ratha, the vehicle of Srichakra. At the north-west exists the Geya Chakra Ratha
of the Goddess Mantrini. At the north-east exists the Kiri Chakra Ratha of the
Goddess Dandini. In between the East and the south-east exists Mantrini gruha -
the abode of the Goddess Mantrini. In between the East and the north-east
exists Dandini gruha – the abode of the Goddess Dandini. 

The Chintamani
palace:

1. This palace is centrally located in
Sripattana – The City of Sri (Wealth). 

2. The walls of the palace are built with Chintamani
gems. 

3. The roof also is made of the same stones of
Chintamani. 

4. The palace has three towers by names Iccha
Sikhara, Kriya Sikhara and Jnana Sikhara i.e. the towers of desire, action and
knowledge. 

5. The palace has four doors. They are called
Amnaya devas. They are Purva, Dakshina, Pascima and Uttara – Amnaya devas (on
the East, South, West and North sides). Amnaya means Veda. 

6. Bindu Peetha (central seat of power) is
centrally located in the palace. 

7. This seat of power (peetha) has steps on
four sides. 

8. The entire structure described above is of
the design of Srichakra. 

9. All the male and female deities of Srichakra
reside here. 

10.The Bindu Peetha is called Sri Peetha, Maha
Peetha, Vidya Peetha andAnanda Peetha also (The seat of prosperity, greatness,
knowledge andbliss). 

11.On the pedastal exists the cot of the five
brahmas. 

12.The cot has four legs namely Brahma,
Vishnu, Mahesana and Iswara. These four deities have attained female form by
worshipping Mother. 

13.The plank resting on these legs is
Sadasiva. 

14.To the east of this cot, there are 36
steps, representing the 36 aspects of spiritualism. 

15.There is a foot-rest in front of the cot. 

16.There is swan like bed on the cot. 

17.On the cot, there are two pillows for the
head and one pillow for the legs. 

18.A light red blanket is spread on the bed.

19.The Lord Kameswara sits on the cot facing
the East. He is ever in the form of a sixteen year old boy. He has four hands
and three eyes. He wears erotic costumes.

20.On His lap sits Lalita Devi. She is ever in
the form of a sixteen year old girl. Her complexion is rosy. She wears erotic
costumes. She has four hands. Her decoration is the moon. 

21.As she pleases Sadasiva, she is called
Lalita (Lalana - to please) Siva Kameswarankastha Siva Svadheena Vallabha
Sumeru madhya srungastha Srimannagara nayika. Chintamani gruhantastha Panca
Brahmasana sthita. Maha Padmatavi samstha Kadamba vana vasini Sudha sagara madhyastha
Kamakshi Kamadayini The above names in the Lalita Sahasra nama indicate the
Srinaara, the Chintamani gruha (the palace of the Mother) and her other divine
aspects described above. The Mother incarnated to kill the demon Bhanda. She is
the Supreme Mother as per these divine names, will achieve everything
auspicious.

Regards,
Dhatri.

--- On Thu, 9/2/10, Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sanjay Kak <kaksanjay at gmail.com>
Subject: [Reader-list] "Kashmir: a place of blood and memory" Nitasha Kaul
To: "Sarai Reader List" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 10:00 PM

One of the exciting developments of this summer has been the explosion
of writing on Kashmir: along with the stones, we have been showered
with new voices. In place of the conditioned blather that we in India
have grown up with, there is a wide range of new positions and
approaches.
I'm posting this excellent piece by Nitasha Kaul, writer (and economist).
Since its long, I'm prefacing it with two excerpts. Just to whet your
appetite...
Best
Sanjay Kak

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"Kashmir is not an ‘integral’ part of India. It is a disputed
integral, in fact, as I have argued, the Indian attitude to Kashmir
can only be understood in the wider context of the failed political,
economic, and social promises of post-colonial India. In the name of
‘national integration’, India is occupying a region against the will
of the people who live there. Kashmir is ‘integral’ only to the life
of Kashmiris....

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