[Reader-list] WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN MUSLIMWOMEN??
Monica Narula
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Fri Jul 29 21:57:43 IST 2005
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At 11:59 +0000 29/7/05, Vedavati Jogi wrote:
>thank you very much for this compliment though i am not a rss volunteer!
>
>i find reflection of a typical muslim mind in
>your letter. very first thing, lets adopt
>shariah, now tell me will you & your secular
>brothers & sisters accept punishments like
>amputing hands & legs? only because you are in
>india you are allowed to talk any stupid thing
>against hindus & hindustan, will pakistan give
>this freedom to any non-muslim?
>
>secondly, gujrat happened because godhra
>happened.because muslims can understand only
>this language used by gujrati brothers.
>
>third thing, non of the countries on this earth
>has ever taken pride for invader's deeds, hindus
>did the best thing that they dismantled babri
>masjid. now they should take law in their hands
>& complete the remaining task of dismantling
>remaining masjids which were erected by
>dismantling hindu temples.
>
>fourth point, indian army is facing lot of
>pressure in kashmir, they don't have time for
>looting or raping the kashimiris, people like
>you are traitors i must say, who are trying to
>demoralise our military.if you get some time
>please go to kashmir & see for yourself how many
>mandirs have been burnt, how many houses vacated
>by pandits have been looted,captured or even
>burnt....for your kind information i am a
>maharashtrian married to a kashmiri pandit who
>has become refugee in his own country because of
>muslims like you.
>
>now tell me why shouldn't we throw you out of this country?
>vedavati ravindra jogi
>
>
>
>>From: roger das <rgdj12 at yahoo.com>
>>To: Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com>
>>CC: reader-list at sarai.net, readers-list at sarai.net, reader-lists at sarai.net
>>Subject: Re: Re: [Reader-list] WHO WILL PROTECT
>>THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN MUSLIMWOMEN??
>>Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:03:36 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>I must say to this RSS volunteer that though
>>he/she is hindu but know nothing about their
>>own religion and thus goes on maligning Islam
>>bcoz they afraid the way People from all over
>>the world embracing Islam on their own will. it
>>is the fastest spreading religion even in land
>>of zionist-USA, UK, Europe....south asia etc.
>>If you are talking about uniform civil code
>>then do a debate to adopt the best rule for all
>>Indian and am damn sure that after reading
>>world class book only shariah will emerge as
>>the supreme law coz it is the law of GOD- the
>>best for all human kind.
>>The so called 'rule of the land' in India is
>>most widely violated by these so called
>>'Indians hindus' e.g. Babri Masjid demolition,
>>Gujarat massacre, raping and looting by Indian
>>Army in kashmir, North eastern states, Mumbai
>>riot, fake encounter of muslims brothers,
>>alineated them from mainstream by not giving
>>them jobs on ythe basis of religion, curbing
>>their talent, making false allegation all the
>>time to establish a notion that they are not
>>patriotic, deleting history of their efforts in
>>freedom fighting and nation building....etc
>>etc....so many instances I can give to these so
>>called patriotic Indian hindus.
>>I hope this message will find palce in the
>>posting list.....coz my last nessages didnt put
>>on the saem just bcoz it didnt suits sarai
>>coordinator.
>>
>>accept the truth
>>
>>Vedavati Jogi <vrjogi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>i did not talk about 'dividing india'. i want to throw out those muslims
>>who don't accept rule of the land.
>>
>>>From: "khadeeja arif"
>>>Reply-To: khadeeja arif
>>>To: reader-list at sarai.net
>>>Subject: Re: Re: [Reader-list] WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN
>>>MUSLIMWOMEN??
>>>Date: 27 Jul 2005 07:35:09 -0000
>>>
>>> Ms Inda
>>>
>>>"Well, why not to make an other partition where we can put all the Indian
>>>Muslim, since they will probably not be accepted, neither, in Pakistan!"
>>>
>>>Is this statement very different from Vadevati's statement?? I am curious
>>>to know!!
>>>cheers
>>>K
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 linda bouifrou wrote :
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >How life is funny,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I, a proud French Muslim women, just came back from lunch. During this
>>>time of relaxation, I had a talk with my friends (Indians & French) about
>>>our love for India. We spoke about Gandhi, Nehru as much as about Tagore or
>>>Roy. My first answer to explain and show my admiration about your country
>>>was to demonstrate that such a multi-cultural/Ethnical/religious country
>>>can still be united !
>>> >
>>> >How chocked Ive been to read these exchanges of e-mails
but still not
>>>disappointed by India.
>>> >
>>> >Well, why not to make an other partition where we can put all the Indian
>>>Muslim, since they will probably not be accepted, neither, in Pakistan !
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Manish Tewani a écrit : HI, all Without reading the
>>>entire e.mail, Vedavati has replied back giving an answer. It is calling
>>>for abolishing of mechanisms, institutions and actions against Indian
>>>Muslim Women. One should first cross-check and be aware of what an amount
>>>of positive impact, organisations like Awaaz-e-Niswaan, WRAG are having in
>>>changing the society, at the grassroots level. After this, one has every
>>>right to be critical of such efforts. I am not in a lecturer or
>>>preacher's mode, but Jogi's response is quite an un-clear, demeaning and
>>>rather un-civilised that Muslims should move to Islamic countries.
>>>According to Jogi's ideas, all of us Hindus should move to Nepal (A Hindu
>>>State). With regards, Manish
>>> > On 7/22/05, Vedavati Jogi wrote: demonstrations
>>>will not serve any purpose, muslims are not accepting common
>>> >civil code under the pretext of 'secularism, pluralism' etc.etc. first
>>>ask
>>> >them to accept the law of the land or else pack them off to pakistan or
>>>any
>>> >arab country.
>>> >
>>> > >From: abshi at vsnl.com
>>> > >To: reader-list at sarai.net
>>> > >Subject: [Reader-list] WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN MUSLIM
>>>WOMEN??
>>> > >Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:22:08 +0200
>>> > >
>>> > >INVITATION
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >July 21, 2005
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >INVITATION
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >July 21, 2005
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >?WHO WILL PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF INDIAN MUSLIM WOMEN??
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression of Women,
>>> > >Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India Centre For Human Rights,
>>>PUKAR
>>> > >(Gender & Space project), Special Cell for Women and Children, Women?s
>>> > >Research and Action Group invite you support and attend a mass
>>> > >demonstration being organized by women?s groups to express our
>>>discontent
>>> > >and anger with the rise in strength of extra-judicial forces like the
>>> > >shariah jamaats, as has been evident in the recent Imrana case in
>>> > >Muzaffarnagar in U.P, and the increase in the number of anti-women
>>>fatwas
>>> > >being issued by local panchayats and self-styled religious leaders.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >In most of these cases not only are the interests and rights of Indian
>>> > >Muslim women being trampled upon but there?s also a total disregard for
>>>the
>>> > >rule of law.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >We, a collective of organizations supporting women?s rights, believe
>>>that
>>> > >we simply cannot have parallel judicial systems running in this
>>>country. We
>>> > >demand that the State play a more active role in protecting and
>> >advancing
>>> > >the rights of Indian Muslim women.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >The demonstration will be on Saturday, July 23, 2005. It will start at
>>>2.30
>>> > >pm at Nagpada junction (near Sagar Hotel/Nagpada police station) and go
>>>via
>>> > >the JJ Hospital junction down Mohammed Ali Road and end at Azad Maidan.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Thanking you
>>> > >
>>> > >Yours sincerely,
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression of Women,
>>> > >Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India Centre For Human Rights,
>>>PUKAR
>>> > >(Gender & Space project), Special Cell for Women and Children, Women?s
>>> > >Research and Action Group
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >For further information, contact:
>>> > >
>>> > >* Awaaz-e-Niswaan: 9819106124 (Farhat and Smita)
>>> > >
>>> > >* Women?s Research & Action Group: 9833072690 (Noorjahan and Shabana)
>>> > >
>>> > >* Forum Against Oppression of Women: 9820833422 (Sandhya Gokhale)
>>> > >
>>> > >* India Centre for Human Rights & Law Network: 9820022614 (Chetna
>>>Birje)
>>> > >
>>> > >* PUKAR Gender & Space Project: 9820290402 (Sameera Khan)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression of Women,
>>> > >Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India Centre For Human Rights,
>>>PUKAR
>>> > >(Gender & Space project), Special Cell for Women and Children, Women?s
>>> > >Research and Action Group invite you support and attend a mass
>>> > >demonstration being organized by women?s groups to express our
>>>discontent
>>> > >and anger with the rise in strength of extra-judicial forces like the
>>> > >shariah jamaats, as has been evident in the recent Imrana case in
>>> > >Muzaffarnagar in U.P, and the increase in the number of anti-women
>>>fatwas
>>> > >being issued by local panchayats and self-styled religious leaders.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >In most of these cases not only are the interests and rights of Indian
>>> > >Muslim women being trampled upon but there?s also a total disregard for
>>>the
>>> > >rule of law.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >We, a collective of organizations supporting women?s rights, believe
>>>that
>>> > >we simply cannot have parallel judicial systems running in this
>>>country. We
>>> > >demand that the State play a more active role in protecting and
>>>advancing
>>> > >the rights of Indian Muslim women.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >The demonstration will be on Saturday, July 23, 2005. It will start at
>>>2.30
>>> > >pm at Nagpada junction (near Sagar Hotel/Nagpada police station) and go
>>>via
>>> > >the JJ Hospital junction down Mohammed Ali Road and end at Azad Maidan.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Thanking you
>>> > >
>>> > >Yours sincerely,
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >Awaaz-e-Niswaan, Akshara, Forum Against Oppression of Women,
>>> > >Hukook-e-Niswaan, Mahila Sanghatana, India Centre For Human Rights,
>>>PUKAR
>>> > >(Gender & Space project), Special Cell for Women and Children, Women?s
>>> > >Research and Action Group
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >For further information, contact:
>>> > >
>>> > >* Awaaz-e-Niswaan: 9819106124 (Farhat and Smita)
>>> > >
>>> > >* Women?s Research & Action Group: 9833072690 (Noorjahan and Shabana)
>>> > >
>>> > >* Forum Against Oppression of Women: 9820833422 (Sandhya Gokhale)
>>> > >
>>> > >* India Centre for Human Rights & Law Network: 9820022614 (Chetna
>>>Birje)
>>> > >
>>> > >* PUKAR Gender & Space Project: 9820290402 (Sameera Khan)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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