[Reader-list] shuddhabratas response

[Dinesh, Servelots]

My apologies to Ms. V [on behalf of the list?].

I do not consider Abhits mail as personal in the sense it has been
discussed here.
If anything, it is an indication of what Rahul wrote (ref: sleeve) and
I assumed Rahul was talking more about Abhit than Shuddha; and am
surprised Shuddha took it
personally.

And I understand more Emma and Rahuls stance;
(and likely empathize with them in also the way..)
I always have read Shuddha's writings with joy and
would have liked to think he expresses my sentiments
 (atleast until his response and [ad hominem] biases re: V
  and A! - as noted by Emma - in this list and as a moderator!?).

True, many of us are *beyond Hindutva*..
I wonder if we are *beyond Terrorism*
for we desire to empathize with fellow folk --
and maybe anything else would just be farse? :)



On 3/1/07, Tapas Ray <t.ray at vsnl.com> wrote:
> PS to my earlier post:
>
> Even though Ms Jogi is probably happy with the way her posts have turned the
> Sarai list from a very imperfect approximation of a public sphere type space
> of rational critical discourse into a hate space where identities are being
> attacked (by Ms Jogi and Emma, for instance) or asserted and defended (as I
> have done just now), I cannot help thinking that she has reason to be
> unhappy, too - she can see that there are plenty of list members who will
> not accept in silence her proselytizing efforts in aid of certain primitive
> points of view.
>
> And yes, I stand with Shuddhabata in "understanding" Abhit's outrage, even
> though I think, like Shuddha, that his language was wrong, and probably
> misogynic - even though he merely referred to copulation while the original
> sin - spreading hatred against Muslims - is often accompanied by rape and
> murder on a large scale, as in Gujarat, and is not limited to mere verbal
> references to sexual intercourse ... I should add that I do not know whether
> Ms Jogi has personally taken part in that sort of mayhem, but she does
> defend those who indulge in these for breakfast.
>
> In law, there is something called "mitigating circumstance". A murder who
> kills under grave provocation, gets a lesser sentence than one who kills in
> cold blood. Abhit wrote what he wrote under grave provocation from Ms Jogi.
> Hence our "understanding".
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Tapas Ray
>
>
>
> > Alright guys enough is enough! This is not to condone the outrageously
> > content of the blog Vedvati wanted us to visit, or to condone Abhik's
> > response to the same (makes me wonder what kind of a background he comes
> > from), but Shuddhabrata you really take the cake. A pseudo like you seems
> > to
> > "understand" Abhik's posting! Even pimps have more dignity than some Bong
> > men, some Bong men like you!
>
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