[Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand ‘internally displaced persons’ status
Aditya Raj Kaul
kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Mon Nov 3 13:42:34 IST 2008
Pawan,
It has become so usual now to see these puppets speak their masters tone.
They can't digest the broad based work that RIK undertakes at a global
level. Their thinking is confined to the four walls. State bashers group.
Unfortunate state indeed. I feel sorry for them.
Aditya Raj Kaul
On 11/3/08, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Aman,
>
> At least we are not puppets of Chinese ideology. You know what I mean.
>
>
> Pawan
>
>
>
> On 11/3/08, Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I;m just interested in learning about when your script runs out ... is
> > RIK like a call centre that has a set of broad answers that are useful
> > for answers any and all questions? or is it like a dynamic system that
> > churns out the same answers in different formats?
> > are you all one person with different aliases?
> >
> > and as for the UN; why would u appeal to the UN? arent you guys all
> > about the glory of the indian state? or there is no group of guys? you
> > just happen to be a group of autonomously annoying people who decided
> > to show up on this list and systematically throttle any conversation
> > that didnt correspond to the script you had been fed in your
> > initiation sessions?
> >
> > It saddens me to see puppets strung about in this manner .. remember
> > that the hands that tug the strings are prone to sudden changes of
> > heart ...
> >
> > a.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > well said
> > >
> > > On 11/2/08, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> Aarti,
> > >>
> > >> Needless to say your comments are just ridiculous. At the time of
> > PAKISTAN
> > >> creation under 2 nation theory It was under legal accession of
> > >> INDIA(BRITISH). It was the INDIA(on its own) gave life to
> PAKISTAN 2nd
> > >> time after 1971 war. You should awake from your unconcious, absentive
> > >> state of mind. Hence you start demaning for POK and rest of the
> > occupied
> > >> terrotories return. Probably at some day it may possible as it was
> not
> > >> possible before.
> > >>
> > >> Dhatri.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: Aarti Sethi <aarti.sethi at gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally
> displaced
> > >> persons' status
> > >> To: dhatr1i at yahoo.com
> > >> Cc: aman.am at gmail.com, reader-list at sarai.net
> > >> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:37 PM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> As usual Dhatri you miss the point. The territorial return makes sense
> > when
> > >> there was a legal accession in the first place. Since this never
> > occurred,
> > >> because the plebiscite India committed itself to never happened, you
> > would
> > >> need to re-think your position.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM, we wi <dhatr1i at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If INDIA possess other provinces like PAKISTAN any body should quote
> the
> > >> word plebiscite. Instead the reverse is true for INDIA as POK and
> like
> > >> boarder areas in occupation from PAKISTAN AND CHINA, you and everybody
> > >> including UN should insist for the territorial return.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: Aman Sethi <aman.am at gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally
> displaced
> > >> persons' status
> > >> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> > >> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 3:42 AM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps you should insist that India carry out the UN mandated
> > >> plebiscite as well.
> > >> a.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Aditya Raj Kaul <
> > kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Kashmiri Pandits demand 'internally displaced persons' status By
> > >> Indo-Asian
> > >>> News Service
> > >> <http://www.freshnews.in/author/indo-asian-news-service/> on
> > >>> Friday, October 31, 2008
> > >>>
> > >>> Kashmiri Pandits held a silent sit in protest outside the United
> > Nations
> > >>> High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) office here Friday, demanding
> > that
> > >>> the community, which fled the Kashmir
> > >>> Valley<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/kashmir-valley>during the peak of
> > >>> militancy 20 years ago, be declared as internally
> > >>> displaced persons (IDPs).
> > >>>
> > >>> The community represented by Kashmiri youth organisations in the
> > capital
> > >>> like Roots in Kashmir, Internally Displaced Youth Front, All India
> > Kashmir
> > >>> Samaj, Panun Kashmir and others, along with elderly members of the
> > >> community
> > >>> in Delhi, presented a five-page memorandum of their demands to Nayona
> > Bose
> > >>> of the UNHCR to be forwarded to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who
> > is
> > >> on
> > >>> a two-day visit to India.
> > >>>
> > >>> "We welcome the UN secretary on his visit to India. As a community
> > >> we,
> > >>> therefore, appeal to him to help us - declare the Kashmiri Hindu
> > community
> > >>> as IDPs," Lalit Ambardar, 35, a qualified engineer who was one of the
> > >>> 100-odd protestors, told IANS.
> > >>>
> > >>> "The Human Rights Working Group on Minorities in Geneva had
> > >> recognised
> > >>> Kashmiri Hindus formally as a 'reverse minority'. So the use of
> > >> the
> > >>> insulting term of 'migrants' for us - a forcibly exiled community
> > >> - should
> > >>> be removed from all records and communications relating to us
> > >> henceforth,"
> > >>> Ambardar chorused the protestor's demand.
> > >>>
> > >>> Many others protestors were angry about the state to which Kashmiri
> > Hindus
> > >>> have been reduced since insurgency in the Kashmir Valley in 1989-90,
> > when
> > >>> more that 400,000 Kashmiri Pandits fled their homes to escape
> > >>> persecution...
> > >>>
> > >>> "Historically, Kashmiri Pandits were known to be intellectuals, but
> > >> now we
> > >>> are rotting away - we are a national waste - we have no political
> > >>> representation, have no geographic ethnicity that we can claim as our
> > >> own!"
> > >>> fumed Raj Raina, 37.
> > >>>
> > >>> Raina was unable to get a government job owing to his 'migrant'
> > >> status. He
> > >>> is now self-employed and runs a small printing press.
> > >>>
> > >>> "When I was forced to leave my home in the Valley,
> > >>> militants<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/militants>threatened us time
> > >> and
> > >>> again - merge with us (with political and religious
> > >>> views), perish or vanish," Raina recapitulated memories of the
> > >> insurgency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Amongst those present from the community were varsity
> > >>> students<http://www.freshnews.in/tag/students>,
> > >>> who also held that the current situation was sordid.
> > >>>
> > >>> "Calling us migrants implies that we had a choice in the matter, when
> > >> we
> > >>> were actually forced to flee," said Aditya Raj Kaul, a 22-year-old
> > >> student
> > >>> activist from Delhi University.
> > >>>
> > >>> "We have demanded in the memorandum that the UN direct the Indian
> > >> government
> > >>> to ensure adequate protection to the residual Kashmiri Hindu
> population
> > >>> living in the Valley. Also that Kashmiri Hindus be restored political
> > and
> > >>> economic rights, giving them equal status rather than second-class
> > >>> citizenship in their native land," Kaul informed.
> > >>>
> > >>> Link -
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.freshnews.in/kashmiri-pandits-demand-internally-displaced-persons-status-93431
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