[Reader-list] secular fascist is at work, proceed with caution.
Vedavati Jogi
vedavati_jogi at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 19 12:44:24 IST 2008
akal ke andhe nahi
akal ke dushman!
when they can't argue, can't prove their point logically, they start abusing others
start using filthy language.
don't waste your time in waking them up as they are 'pretending to sleep'
vedavati
--- On Sun, 19/10/08, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Reader-list] secular fascist is at work, proceed with caution..
To: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
Date: Sunday, 19 October, 2008, 3:04 PM
Akal ke andho ko, jitna samjao unke liye "foreign language" hai.... So
they
are best ignored..
On 10/19/08, Real Unreal <hiddenbuthere at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Real Unreal
<hiddenbuthere at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > is aditya pandit poot kay lund pa abi dunda nahi pada hai
> > jawan hai, do teen dili ki bilayan jaab panja gardan pa maar dangai,
> > to bolna seekh jaya ga
> > vasay parveen tagodia say milanay to jagta hi hoga,
> > suna ha londoon ka bada shokeen hai
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:02 AM, kirdar singh
<kirdarsingh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Even if they converted people to Christianity they gave them
> >> education, jobs and dignity - it is far better than
re-conversions at
> >> gun point in Orissa.
> >>
> >> You said: "I'm a proud Kashmiri Pandit. We don't
have a caste system."
> >> -- isn't this statement they call an OXYMORON
> >>
> >> You also said: "We live happily" -- wow, then why are
you (and your
> >> ilk) spreading so much unhappiness on this list. It certainly
doesn't
> >> show your happiness. Please go be happy, and let us be happy. We
also
> >> have to intentions to spoil your happiness.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Aditya Raj Kaul
> >> <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Kirdar ji,
> >>>
> >>> Are you talking of those so called 'Christian Tribal'
who were
> converted by
> >>> Christian Missionaries in return for job, money and a lot
more ? They
> were
> >>> bought and converted. Isn't that so Mr. Kirdar Singh ?
Or, you think
> that is
> >>> legal bcoz they were Christian's and not Hindu's.
> >>>
> >>> I'm a proud Kashmiri Pandit. We don't have a caste
system. We live
> happily.
> >>>
> >>> Love
> >>> Aditya Raj Kaul
> >>>
> >>> On 10/18/08, kirdar singh <kirdarsingh at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh my, my. You still believe in caste system! In that
case, when you
> >>>> convert a Christian tribal in Orissa to Hinduism, which
caste does he
> >>>> go to? Can he apply for Brahminship?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Prabhakar Singh
> >>>>
> >>>> <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> > Dear Kirdar Ji,
> >>>> > Thanks a lot for a very interesting,absorbing and
enlightening
> account
> >>>> about Pandits sent within no time.What I meant by
"Pandit" was
> "Brahmin" :
> >>>> one of the four castes of Hindus.
> >>>> > Regards,
> >>>> > Prabhakar
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> > From: kirdar singh <kirdarsingh at gmail.com>
> >>>> > To: Prabhakar Singh <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com>
> >>>> > Cc: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>;
reader-list at sarai.net
> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, 18 October, 2008 5:34:43 AM
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Reader-list] secular fascist is at
work, proceed with
> >>>> caution.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Prabhakar ji
> >>>> > Non-Hindus can be pundits too. See below:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The Oxford English Dictionary cites the first
English Language use
> of
> >>>> > the word "Pundit" as referring to an
official of the Supreme Court
> in
> >>>> > Colonial India who advised the English Judges on
questions of Hindu
> >>>> > law. In Anglo-Indian use, "pundit" also
referred to a native of
> India
> >>>> > who was trained and employed by the British to
survey inaccessible
> >>>> > regions beyond the British frontier. By extension,
the word came to
> >>>> > refer to, "A learned expert or teacher"
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A pundit is someone who offers to mass-media his/her
opinion or
> >>>> > commentary on a particular subject area (most
typically political
> >>>> > analysis, the social sciences or sport), on which
he/she is presumed
> >>>> > to be knowledgeable. The term has been increasingly
applied to
> popular
> >>>> > media personalities. In certain cases, it may be
used in a
> derogatory
> >>>> > manner as well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The term originates from the Hindi term pandit,
which in turn is
> >>>> > derived from Sanskrit pandita, learned, and is first
found in
> English
> >>>> > in 1672.[1] It refers to someone who is erudite in
various subjects
> >>>> > and who conducts religious ceremonies and offers
counsel to the king
> >>>> > or mayor.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Speculation exists that the term's contemporary
use may have its
> >>>> > origins in a Yale University society known as
"The Pundits" which,
> >>>> > founded in 1884, developed a reputation for
including among its
> >>>> > members the school's most incisive and humorous
critics of
> >>>> > contemporary society. The group's
late-nineteenth and
> early-twentieth
> >>>> > century focus on lampooning the social and political
world were
> >>>> > well-documented in the university's yearbook and
the Yale Daily
> News,
> >>>> > the entries of which are considered among the first
use of the term
> >>>> > "Pundit" to refer to a critic of or expert
on contemporary
> >>>> > matters.[citation needed] Several members of the
society have also
> >>>> > gone on to become leading political pundits,
including Pulitzer
> >>>> > Prize-winning author and energy expert Daniel
Yergin. Other notable
> >>>> > Yale Pundits include A. Whitney Griswold, Lewis H.
Lapham and Joe
> >>>> > Lieberman.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In the English-speaking West, pundits write signed
articles in print
> >>>> > media (blurbs included), and appear on radio,
television, or the
> >>>> > internet with opinions on current events. Television
pundits may
> also
> >>>> > be referred to as talking heads.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Punditry has become a more popular vehicle in
nightly newscasts on
> >>>> > American cable news networks. A rise of partisanship
among popular
> >>>> > pundits began with Bill O'Reilly of Fox News
Channel. His
> >>>> > opinion-oriented format led him to ratings success
and has led
> others,
> >>>> > including Lou Dobbs, Keith Olbermann, and Nancy
Grace, to express
> >>>> > their opinions on matters on their own respective
programs.[2]
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Internet authors trying to create a name for
themselves by
> >>>> > non-traditional means, may refer to themselves as
pundits, and in
> fact
> >>>> > can be considered experts of their particular life
experiences or
> >>>> > observations[3].
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Comedian Stephen Colbert satirizes punditry in his
show, The Colbert
> >>>> > Report, most notably based on Bill O'Reilly but
including others as
> >>>> > well.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The term pundit is also used to refer to sports
experts.[4] Often, a
> >>>> > 'pundit' will be partnered alongside a
commentator, who will
> describe
> >>>> > the action while asking the pundit for analysis.
Alternatively,
> >>>> > pundits may be asked for their opinions during
breaks in the play.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > This is a list of some well-known contemporary
pundits:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Australia
> >>>> > o Andrew Bolt
> >>>> > o Phil Cleary
> >>>> > o Germaine Greer
> >>>> > o John Laws
> >>>> > o Glenn Milne
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Brazil
> >>>> > o Olavo de Carvalho
> >>>> > o Reinaldo Azevedo
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Canada
> >>>> > o Michael Coren
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Chile
> >>>> > o Hermógenes Pérez de Arce
> >>>> > o Gonzalo Rojas Sánchez
> >>>> > o Patricio Navia
> >>>> > o Miljenko R. Marinkovic
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Hong Kong, China
> >>>> > o Ivan Choy
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * India
> >>>> > o Cho Ramaswamy
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * Spain
> >>>> > o Federico Jiménez Losantos
> >>>> > o Iñaki Gabilondo
> >>>> > o Luis del Olmo
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * United Kingdom
> >>>> > o David Aaronovitch
> >>>> > o Gary Lineker
> >>>> > o Matthew Le Tissier
> >>>> > o Tim Henman
> >>>> > o Andy Gray
> >>>> > o John Motson
> >>>> > o Martin Tyler
> >>>> > o Vanessa Feltz
> >>>> > o Germaine Greer
> >>>> > o Christopher Hitchens
> >>>> > o Peter Hitchens
> >>>> > o John McCririck
> >>>> > o George Monbiot
> >>>> > o Melanie Phillips
> >>>> >
> >>>> > * United States
> >>>> > o Glenn Beck
> >>>> > o Neal Boortz
> >>>> > o Tucker Carlson
> >>>> > o Stephen Colbert
> >>>> > o Alan Colmes
> >>>> > o Ann Coulter
> >>>> > o Lou Dobbs
> >>>> > o Roger Ebert
> >>>> > o Al Franken
> >>>> > o Nancy Grace
> >>>> > o Sean Hannity
> >>>> > o Christopher Hitchens
> >>>> > o Ezra Klein
> >>>> > o Rush Limbaugh
> >>>> > o Rachel Maddow
> >>>> > o Bill Maher
> >>>> > o Michelle Malkin
> >>>> > o Chris Matthews
> >>>> > o Keith Olbermann
> >>>> >o Bill O'Reilly
> >>>> > o Joe Scarborough
> >>>> > o Michael Savage
> >>>> > o Mark Steyn
> >>>> > o Jon Stewart
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Sports Pundits
> >>>> > o Skip Bayless
> >>>> > o Mike Francesa
> >>>> > o Peter Gammons
> >>>> > o Mike Golic
> >>>> > o Mike Greenberg
> >>>> > o Jay Mariotti
> >>>> > o Woody Paige
> >>>> > o Jim Rome
> >>>> > o Chris Russo
> >>>> > o Stephen A. Smith
> >>>> > o Dick Vitale
> >>>> > o Michael Wilbon
> >>>> > o Tony Kornheiser
> >>>> > o Lou Holtz
> >>>> > o Keyman Ma
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In the second half of the 19th century, the term
pundit was used to
> >>>> > denote native surveyors who explored regions to the
north of India
> for
> >>>> > the British.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > One of the greatest projects of nineteenth century
geography was the
> >>>> > Great Trigonometric Survey of India. The English
also wanted
> >>>> > geographical information on the lands further north.
This was not
> just
> >>>> > out of scientific curiosity: The Russians were
expanding their
> empire
> >>>> > into Central Asia, and the English feared that they
might have set
> >>>> > their eyes on India. Thus, the Russians and the
English both tried
> to
> >>>> > extend their influence in Asia. Knowledge of
geography of the region
> >>>> > was of course of utmost importance in this so-called
'Great Game'.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > However, in some regions these surveys seemed
impossible. Some of
> the
> >>>> > Indian border countries, in particular Tibet, would
not allow
> >>>> > westerners to enter their country, let alone a
British surveying
> team.
> >>>> > In the 1860s, Thomas G. Montgomerie, a captain in
the survey,
> realised
> >>>> > that the solution to this problem would be to train
natives from
> >>>> > Indian border states such as Sikkim to be surveyors,
and have them
> >>>> > explore the region. These would raise less suspicion
than Europeans,
> >>>> > and might be able to make observations disguised as
a trader or a
> lama
> >>>> > (holy man). These native surveyors are called
pundits.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A number of tricks were developed to enable the
pundits to make
> their
> >>>> > observations without being found out. They were
trained to make
> >>>> > exactly 2,000 paces to the mile. To count them, they
used what
> looked
> >>>> > like a Buddhist rosary, called a mala, but instead
of the usual 108
> >>>> > beads had 100, every tenth being slightly larger.
Every 100 paces a
> >>>> > bead was dropped. A prayer wheel did not hold the
usual Buddhist
> >>>> > prayer om mani padme hum, but maps and notes. Pundit
Nain Singh
> Rawat
> >>>> > also found that these could be used to ward off
curious
> co-travelers:
> >>>> > Each time someone came too near, he would start
whirling the wheel
> >>>> > around and thus pretend to be in religious
contemplation. Usually
> this
> >>>> > would be enough to stop others from addressing him.
Another way of
> >>>> > keeping their observation was to turn them into a
poem, and recite
> >>>> > that during their travels.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The pundits were given extensive training in
surveying: They learned
> >>>> > to use the sextant, determine height by measuring
the temperature of
> >>>> > boiling water, and make astronomical observations.
They also
> received
> >>>> > medical training. Despite the precautions and
tricks, some of them
> >>>> > were sent back, tortured or even executed. But with
their travels
> they
> >>>> > managed to map the Himalaya, Tibet and surrounding
areas with
> >>>> > remarkable precision.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Pandits, or locals learned in the dharmasastra, were
also employed
> as
> >>>> > court advisors during the 18th and 19th Centuries.
Initially,
> British
> >>>> > judges had very little knowledge of Hindu customs
and oral
> traditions,
> >>>> > and they could seek information from them on
particular questions.
> The
> >>>> > Supreme Court of India had a law officer styled the
Pundit of the
> >>>> > Supreme Court, who advised the English judges on
points of Hindu
> law.
> >>>> > The practice was abandoned by 1864, as judges had
acquired some
> >>>> > experience in dealing with Hindu law, and applied
the increasing
> >>>> > volume of case law that had developed. Further, the
institution of
> the
> >>>> > High Courts, two years earlier, in 1862 further
diminished their
> >>>> > official use.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Prabhakar Singh
> >>>> > <prabhakardelhi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> I am unable to understand how somebody can be a
Pandit without
> being a
> >>>> Hindu.Pandit is a sub-set of the set called Hindu.Such
people are only
> >>>> confusing others in the web of their words.This appears
to be only
> singular
> >>>> and exceptional case.There are not many such confused
hypocrates who
> are
> >>>> ashamed of their own religion or their roots or origin.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> >> From: inder salim <indersalim at gmail.com>
> >>>> >> To: reader-list at sarai.net
> >>>> >> Sent: Saturday, 18 October, 2008 5:26:37 PM
> >>>> >> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] secular fascist is at
work, proceed with
> >>>> caution.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Dear Bhat sahib
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> briefly, about me, what you are saying , i
have never said.
> >>>> >> about kashmir, just tell me where i wrote that
'Islamic rule in
> place
> >>>> >> democratic rule of laws'.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> now i quote you again,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> stopping by immediate action of lawkeepers , by
arrest,
> investigation,
> >>>> >> prosecution and exemplary punishment, the
reaction is bound to be
> >>>> >> violent.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> if we apply the same thinking in kashmir or
elsewhere, then you
> >>>> >> justify violence. i dont support this thinking.
that is normal. i
> >>>> >> dont qualify fascist for holding such a opinion.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> about old mosque in ayodhya. tell me, which
school you belong ? one
> >>>> >> which motivates/employess the poor man to pull
old mosques ( or
> >>>> >> temples, churches even ) or the other where one
voluntarily joins
> the
> >>>> >> demolition ( be it Ayodhya or kashmir or orrisa
)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> this question i asked because you feel hurt, as
a hindu, but the
> other
> >>>> >> religions which are less accomodative in
comparision to those.
> >>>> >> Strange that you believe India belongs to
Hindus only.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> in some other mail, our Dear Friend Mr.
Kshmendra made it clear
> that
> >>>> >> his identity as Hindu is ' unfortunate'
in comparision to his
> >>>> >> Kashmiri pandit identity. He believes that
being Hindu is only his
> >>>> >> recorded identity, not his Dharmic. Mr. Lalit
has already replied
> that
> >>>> >> in his own way, but dont you see the
point....... and in Indian,
> >>>> >> these ( kshmendra like ) identities are in
millions, because
> Hinduism
>
> >>>> >> can notbe defined as such.
>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Hindutva is a poltical system which is meant to
block the thinking
> of
> >>>> >> ordinary Indians. Why dont you see the game ?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> warmly
> >>>> >> is
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:50 PM, rajendra bhat
> >>>> >> <raja_starkglass at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> >>> Inder salim
> >>>> >>> With lots of love, you belong to a
school of secularism with
> >>>> fascist undertones, indersalim, if you mean what you
express in the
> thoughts
> >>>> that you express with lots of love, the agenda of
spreading hate in
> the
> >>>> express words of love is in obivious stark contrast when
you talk of
> >>>> kashmir, its citizens. You seem to expect the quiet
tolerate citizens
> of
> >>>> hindu community to be quiet when you propagate secession
of my nation
> with
> >>>> your agenda of the faith to bring in an islamic rule in
the place of
> >>>> democratic rule of laws. This is not acceptable to me, I
disagree with
> you
> >>>> when you project your thoughts in support of separatists
like yasin
> malik,
> >>>> "prof" geelani and syed geelanis who work
within the system or outside
> to
> >>>> bring azadi to kashmir just because their faith is
majority in the
> area they
> >>>> represent now. Kashmir and its citizens have to accept
the rule of
> laws as
> >>>> agreed by the accession of its ruler, even though some of
them are
> these
> >>>> rotten
> >>>> >>> citizens of one faith, manage to silence
many of the same faith.,
> >>>> >>> used the masjids giving calls, azaan, to
clean out hindus by
> >>>> violence..Let it be borne in mind that in the continent,
457 kingdoms
> that
> >>>> were there at the time of freedom, all except those
ruled by islamic
> kings
> >>>> like hyderabad nizam, and islamic subjects like kasmiri
muslims did
> not
> >>>> accept the "nation" and force has to be used to
keep the nation as a
> nation,
> >>>> that too inspite of accommodative nature of all other
citizens for the
> >>>> muslim.With a population of 40 percent hindus in Kashmir,
it was that
> small
> >>>> margin that made the faith followers to
"cleanse" the fellow citizens
> out of
> >>>> Kasmir by violence which is now not acceptable. Then it
was neglected
> and
> >>>> tolerated, not now. Then the game of divisive politics,
divided the
> society
> >>>> of hindus on their inherent defect, castes, so if a
pandit was killed
> other
> >>>> hindus "tolerated", now a hindu is hindu not
divided with caste,
> better
> >>>> united. So now the new game of "secularist"
hindu fuelled by left
> idealogy.?
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Being hindu, we respect all faiths and its
followers and are
> tolerent
> >>>> of their customs and cultures. But that is not license in
free India
> to bash
> >>>> the faith of hindu way of life for trp in tv channels,
nor it can be
> taken
> >>>> for granted that you play one caste against the other and
create vote
> banks
> >>>> and talk of "secuarlism" with commune vote
banks. Hindus have
> understood how
> >>>> if they are divided the 2 percent community can take
over the rule of
> the
> >>>> nation. After seeing what has happened around us, a
"devout" Bush
> attacking
> >>>> the divided society with search for imaginary weapons of
mass
> destruction,
> >>>> sending in his troops to war against terror, but terror
continues as
> the
> >>>> each sect of the faith wants to control the other sects.
Muslim
> followers of
> >>>> faith are today divided lot with over a dozen sects
fighting with each
> other
> >>>> so that they are like cats fighting for butter and a
monkey is
> offering them
> >>>> to distribute the butter equally for them.!
> >>>> >>> As a hindu we have adopted and adapted the
good of other faith in
> our
> >>>> way of life, but that to say that only one faith is
saviour to mankind
> is
> >>>> unacceptable and in democratic life of the nation, faith
is very
> personal,
> >>>> it is rule of laws which has to manage the nation and its
citizens.It
> is
> >>>> often attributed that hindus hate muslims and others of
different
> faith,
> >>>> which is just a propaganda, we dislike those who use
faith to garner
> votes
> >>>> from vote banks, even if they are hindus, like a yadav
who caters to
> his
> >>>> commune vote bank, or a jat who talks for only jats, or a
reddy or
> gowda who
> >>>> indulges in nepotism of his "caste." In
democratic life, every citizen
> must
> >>>> get good of governance irrespective of faith, region and
castes. If a
> >>>> Sacchar reports only about muslims that they are backward
in society,
> what
> >>>> wrong other citizens have done who are below the poverty
line in the
> nation,
> >>>> are they also not backward in social , educational,
health care
> facilities.?
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Now about the history of dilapidated
structure, is it not true
> that
> >>>> courts had stopped the prayers at this dilapidated
structure in the
> british
> >>>> rule because the title of the land was defective.? Is it
not true that
> a
> >>>> temple in the land, disputed land was destroyed for this
structure to
> be
> >>>> built by a tyrant king babur.? When we hindus have
accepted all
> muslims in
> >>>> India, even after dividing India for two nations of the
faith, we
> remained
> >>>> secular to accommodate the citizens of other faiths.?So,
if only
> courts had
> >>>> disposed of the case then nation would not have been in
turmoil and
> the
> >>>> leaders did not take any steps to expedite the disposal
of the case is
> a
> >>>> true fact. Whatever be the decision, at that stage, in
early free
> India,
> >>>> judiciary commanded more respect than now. But the game
was of
> appeasement,
> >>>> not only of muslims but also of hindu castes.!
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Violent methods by anyone can not be
tolarated, be it from any
> >>>> faith, for any reason, but the truth is system likes to
breed the
> violence,
> >>>> the goons are helped to be MLAs and MPs.., by all
political parties as
> a to
> >>>> cut metal one needs only metal.? It is not the intention
to justify
> any
> >>>> violence by anyone with action and reaction theories, but
the fact is
> when
> >>>> system fails to stop the "action" as in Godhra
where karsevaks are
> burnt, or
> >>>> as in Khandamal, where 83 year old swami and his 67 year
old followers
> are
> >>>> shot dead, stopping by immediate action of lawkeepers ,
by arrest,
> >>>> investigation, prosecution and exemplary punishment, the
reaction is
> bound
> >>>> to be violent.
> >>>> >>> Look at the out bursts of some in the list,
so called from very
> >>>> secularist schools, and the headmistress of that school,
very
> civilised.?
> >>>> The list administrator himself has no tolerence for the
thoughts of
> others,
> >>>> as he is showing with very uncouth words for such
thoughts in most
> >>>> uncivilised words.? Unless we have a open mind to all
thoughts, we are
> brain
> >>>> inactive with set thoughts. As to us, we have seen the
thoughts from
> all
> >>>> school of thoughts, being hindu, we accept atheist, or
rational
> thoughts
> >>>> also, we do not ask them to be quiet, or to shut up.We
accept all
> faithsand
> >>>> accept good in those faiths, we do not call the thoughts
moronic, but
> >>>> ofcourse we express our opinion on these thoughts, be it
the head
> mistress
> >>>> or the administator. This reply I had resrved for posting
on next
> week, but
> >>>> the hilarious post about internet love cleared my
thoughts.And I
> prefer to
> >>>> post only one post per week, but the ripartee and abuse
that was on
> the list
> >>>> made one
> >>>> >>> think, is this freedom of expression
gagged.?
> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>> Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from
your Yahoo!
> Messenger.
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> >>>> >>>
> >>>> >>>
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