[Reader-list] Rashneek and other evils

Mon Sep 22 16:01:47 IST 2008

This simply shows the level to which you can stoop when confronted.nothing
more to say.....
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:51 PM, sukanya ghosh <skinnyghosh at gmail.com>wrote:

> Rashneek,
>
> Simple question: why are you on this list? All we are privileged to get
> from you are rants and confused rhetoric or conspiracy theories. And when
> anyone tries to engage in any kind of debate/discussion on these you resort
> to abusive verbiage about 'you lot' and 'people like you'. You are the first
> to raise your shrill voice in defense of any jingoistic claptrap that is fed
> to us by various channels. The randomness of your mails and people like you
> (to take a leaf out of your language) leaves me stupefied. By your own
> special brand of non-logic, we are all (by default) mostly 'liars and
> distorters' which brings me back to this: why are you on this list?
>
> People who are as blind as they are are fervent about their complacency are
> the true terror in this country. You have no idea of humanity of even human
> interaction except through your lens of 'us and them'. Somebody's not
> Kashmiri, someones' not Hindu, someone's Kashmiri but not a Pandit, someone
> is a Hero and then of course someone is to be a villain. You and people like
> you are the reason why we live in such a fractured society that has feels it
> has no other recourse except that of violence. People like you who have
> adopted intolerance and poor judgment as their yardstick. You are the people
> who find satisfaction in retribution and revenge. It is ultimately people
> like you who give hope to those people who are behind the violent attacks
> all around us. Every time you point a finger at the dastardly 'other' who is
> the terrorist in another place remember who are creating two more who
> believe they should retaliate in kind.
>
> Sukanya
>
>
>
>
> rashneek kher wrote:
>
> Shudda,
>
> It is no laughing matter but the way you guys have been behaving makes me
> sick.You are such a rotten lot that you dont even care that a brave officer
> lost his life trying to protect people like you and me.Even before the story
> broke you guys already had a case ready to call it a fake encounter.Have
> some shame>what I wrote was a true reflection of people like  you and many
> others here.
> It is people like you who raise hue and cry everytime the Police wants to
> act and that encourages your boys to kill more.
> I really dont need to learn from a liar and distorter like you as to what I
> am to do to combat terrorism.
>
> Rashneek
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta<shuddha at sarai.net> <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:
>
>
>
> Rashneek,
>
>
> I am absolutely appalled that you should find anything to laugh about in a
> terrible tragedy like what has occurred in Islamabad. I hope that all list
> members will join me in condemning this. I grieve for those who died in
> Islamabad as much as I grieve for those who died in Delhi, or Bangalore, or
> Ahmedabad, or Jaipur. As I am sure many sensible people would. No doubt,
> there will be people, not unlike you, in Pakistan, who will jump to the gun
> and say that the blast was the handiwork of 'Indian' agents. There is a
> mirroring that goes on in Pakistan of every stupid xenophobic paranoid
> sentiment in India. Such moves need to be resisted in Pakistan exactly as
> much as they need to be criticised and resisted in India. The security and
> intelligence apparatus of both states function in an arbitrary and
> unaccountable manner that ultimately rebounds back on the common people of
> both countries. It is time, that in both India, and in Pakistan, we saw
> through this game.
>
>
> No one on this list has ever condoned terrorism in any form, whether it
> happens in India, Pakistan or anywhere else. We do not make light of
> terrorism. Those of us who ask questions about the nature of investigations
> done by security agencies , do so, not because we have some kind of
> pathological desire to create a climate of contempt regarding acts of
> terror, but because we are deeply concerned at the mounting numbers of lives
> that are lost to terror. We are not convinced that the arbitrary and
> un-professional manner in which these investigations are conducted, be they
> in India, or indeed, in Pakistan, are actually instrumental in achieving any
> results. We are not convinced that  the conduct of the investigative
> agencies betrays a fidelity to the need for getting to the actual culprits.
>
>
> The reasons for our skepticism lie in the statements that are made by the
> invesitgative agencies, and the discrepancies and inconsistencies in them,
> and in the lackadaisical manner in which the pursuit of the sources of
> terror in all cases is conducted. They make an utter mockery of professional
> standards, be they forensic, or legal.
>
>
> If you are really interested in combatting terrorism, you will need to do
> more than laugh the next time a lot of people lose their lives,
>
>
> Shuddha
>
>
>
>  On 22-Sep-08, at 11:26 AM, rashneek kher wrote:
>
>  Dear Friends,
>
>
> A news agency called Sarai Express has just reported that the Marriot
>
> Bombing is a handiwork of Majrang Dal and Billi Police.The investigating
>
> team comprising of crime journalists,forensic experts,explosive experts and
>
> cyber intelligence team of the agency has reported a conversation between
>
> Talvin Pogadia(hiding in Kajaur) and Bhaliwal(hiding in the North Zaristan)
>
> congratulating each other after the blasts.
>
> While still on crime they have unearthed how the Delhi bombings was also a
>
> handiwork of the Sikh Nationalist force of Afghanistan and Hindu Terrorists
>
> of Pakistan.They have also brought to light how terrorists of both groups
>
> were trained in Kafirkot.
>
> This news sheds new light on how IM and SIMI(both harmless family
>
> planning and welfare organisations)were wrongfully being targetted by the
>
> Indian Agencies.
>
>
> (SARAI)
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
>
> Rashneek Kher
>
> Wandhama Massacre-The Forgotten Human Tragedy
> http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
>
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>  Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>
> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
>
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> --
> sukanya ghosh / +91 9831306925
>
>

-- 
Rashneek Kher
Wandhama Massacre-The Forgotten Human Tragedy
http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
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