[Reader-list] Rashneek and other evils

[Pawan Durani]

Sukanya,
How can you be insensitive to the Martydom Mr Sharma ? And why should we
call the terrorists as terrorists.

A spade is a spade....no matter what you wish from it.

Pawan

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:51 PM, sukanya ghosh <skinnyghosh at gmail.com>wrote:

> Rashneek,
>
> Simple question: why are you on this list? All we are privileged to get
> from you are rants and confused rhetoric or conspiracy theories. And
> when anyone tries to engage in any kind of debate/discussion on these
> you resort to abusive verbiage about 'you lot' and 'people like you'.
> You are the first to raise your shrill voice in defense of any
> jingoistic claptrap that is fed to us by various channels. The
> randomness of your mails and people like you (to take a leaf out of your
> language) leaves me stupefied. By your own special brand of non-logic,
> we are all (by default) mostly 'liars and distorters' which brings me
> back to this: why are you on this list?
>
> People who are as blind as they are are fervent about their complacency
> are the true terror in this country. You have no idea of humanity of
> even human interaction except through your lens of 'us and them'.
> Somebody's not Kashmiri, someones' not Hindu, someone's Kashmiri but not
> a Pandit, someone is a Hero and then of course someone is to be a
> villain. You and people like you are the reason why we live in such a
> fractured society that has feels it has no other recourse except that of
> violence. People like you who have adopted intolerance and poor judgment
> as their yardstick. You are the people who find satisfaction in
> retribution and revenge. It is ultimately people like you who give hope
> to those people who are behind the violent attacks all around us. Every
> time you point a finger at the dastardly 'other' who is the terrorist in
> another place remember who are creating two more who believe they should
> retaliate in kind.
>
> Sukanya
>
>
>
>
> rashneek kher wrote:
> > Shudda,
> >
> > It is no laughing matter but the way you guys have been behaving makes me
> > sick.You are such a rotten lot that you dont even care that a brave
> officer
> > lost his life trying to protect people like you and me.Even before the
> story
> > broke you guys already had a case ready to call it a fake encounter.Have
> > some shame>what I wrote was a true reflection of people like  you and
> many
> > others here.
> > It is people like you who raise hue and cry everytime the Police wants to
> > act and that encourages your boys to kill more.
> > I really dont need to learn from a liar and distorter like you as to what
> I
> > am to do to combat terrorism.
> >
> > Rashneek
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> > <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Rashneek,
> >>
> >>
> >> I am absolutely appalled that you should find anything to laugh about in
> a
> >> terrible tragedy like what has occurred in Islamabad. I hope that all
> list
> >> members will join me in condemning this. I grieve for those who died in
> >> Islamabad as much as I grieve for those who died in Delhi, or Bangalore,
> or
> >> Ahmedabad, or Jaipur. As I am sure many sensible people would. No doubt,
> >> there will be people, not unlike you, in Pakistan, who will jump to the
> gun
> >> and say that the blast was the handiwork of 'Indian' agents. There is a
> >> mirroring that goes on in Pakistan of every stupid xenophobic paranoid
> >> sentiment in India. Such moves need to be resisted in Pakistan exactly
> as
> >> much as they need to be criticised and resisted in India. The security
> and
> >> intelligence apparatus of both states function in an arbitrary and
> >> unaccountable manner that ultimately rebounds back on the common people
> of
> >> both countries. It is time, that in both India, and in Pakistan, we saw
> >> through this game.
> >>
> >>
> >> No one on this list has ever condoned terrorism in any form, whether it
> >> happens in India, Pakistan or anywhere else. We do not make light of
> >> terrorism. Those of us who ask questions about the nature of
> investigations
> >> done by security agencies , do so, not because we have some kind of
> >> pathological desire to create a climate of contempt regarding acts of
> >> terror, but because we are deeply concerned at the mounting numbers of
> lives
> >> that are lost to terror. We are not convinced that the arbitrary and
> >> un-professional manner in which these investigations are conducted, be
> they
> >> in India, or indeed, in Pakistan, are actually instrumental in achieving
> any
> >> results. We are not convinced that  the conduct of the investigative
> >> agencies betrays a fidelity to the need for getting to the actual
> culprits.
> >>
> >>
> >> The reasons for our skepticism lie in the statements that are made by
> the
> >> invesitgative agencies, and the discrepancies and inconsistencies in
> them,
> >> and in the lackadaisical manner in which the pursuit of the sources of
> >> terror in all cases is conducted. They make an utter mockery of
> professional
> >> standards, be they forensic, or legal.
> >>
> >>
> >> If you are really interested in combatting terrorism, you will need to
> do
> >> more than laugh the next time a lot of people lose their lives,
> >>
> >>
> >> Shuddha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  On 22-Sep-08, at 11:26 AM, rashneek kher wrote:
> >>
> >>  Dear Friends,
> >>
> >>
> >> A news agency called Sarai Express has just reported that the Marriot
> >>
> >> Bombing is a handiwork of Majrang Dal and Billi Police.The investigating
> >>
> >> team comprising of crime journalists,forensic experts,explosive experts
> and
> >>
> >> cyber intelligence team of the agency has reported a conversation
> between
> >>
> >> Talvin Pogadia(hiding in Kajaur) and Bhaliwal(hiding in the North
> Zaristan)
> >>
> >> congratulating each other after the blasts.
> >>
> >> While still on crime they have unearthed how the Delhi bombings was also
> a
> >>
> >> handiwork of the Sikh Nationalist force of Afghanistan and Hindu
> Terrorists
> >>
> >> of Pakistan.They have also brought to light how terrorists of both
> groups
> >>
> >> were trained in Kafirkot.
> >>
> >> This news sheds new light on how IM and SIMI(both harmless family
> >>
> >> planning and welfare organisations)were wrongfully being targetted by
> the
> >>
> >> Indian Agencies.
> >>
> >>
> >> (SARAI)
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Rashneek Kher
> >>
> >> Wandhama Massacre-The Forgotten Human Tragedy
> >>
> >> http://www.kashmiris-in-exile.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> http://www.nietzschereborn.blogspot.com
> >>
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> >>  Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> >>
> >> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
> >>
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> >>
> >> shuddha at sarai.net
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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