[Reader-list] Mallika Sarabhai's Public Meeting in JNU on 31st March

[anupam chakravartty]

Dear Pawan,

I am amazed by your steadfastness in expressing views and support for a man,
who is using a good number of people's faith for God to gain power. However
don't you think that by citing all these things for a person who is dividing
the society, making unworthy comments, blinding the youth -- who instead of
marching all the way to Ayodhya with bricks and mortar -- could have made
houses for the poor? Guess who were funding the Ram Temple? those who owned
big hotels and shops in UK and USA, (you know it very well i think). Because
on a holiday, they would used the land next to the Babri Masjid to develop
what we fondly call religious tourism. so that advani can have a large share
of these donations that could come to the Ram temple in ayodhya and make a
handsome profit out it.

I also do not understand how Madani comes into perspective, when we are
exclusively discussing about the a set of people who have divided the
society in the past two decades like nobody. even the theives and dacoits,
who were hiding from the law, got a reason to support that force of
hindutva, because anyway it legitimises all their actions. because so
conveniently once you dip your head in Ganga, irrespective of who you
are...and what have you done to the society, everything is pardonable. i am
not trying to defile the purity of the river, but im just saying that
because people like advani have used the ethical codes of the religious
texts for their own convenience, my belief in Rama or Krishna is shaken.
because if godliness represents peace, how karsevaks take up a trishul and
order the demolition of a masjid and at the same time, when people from 70
villages in Kevadia in Narmada district are asked to moved to other places,
no one from this lobby raised a voice against the authorities. i suspect the
purity of the brick made for ram temple in ayodhya would have been lost if
it were to be used to be used for making the houses of the poor, the
homeless. on second thoughts, you must, dear pawan, pls tell advani that he
should not send any of the bricks. because once people realise that these
bricks were meant for fooling people to believe in something that they are
anyways doing for over the years without making it into something political,
trust me they would publicly lynch Advani. how, if god is omnipresent and
all pervasive, how only making just this temple becomes so important for
this party. it is a sad fact of this nation, which you will never be able to
understand, because anyway your interests are political. people like advani
have sold off my god, my religion, my faith, my dreams (with which I grew
up) ... because of people such as advani, i have become a agnostic, almost a
non-believer. because people like advani, i doubt what moral lessons would
Gita can give to the young ones because a criminal such as Advani has
already used it for his own good to justify his fight saying that he is
waging a holy war.

And unfortunately Pawan, you have used terms such as sickular borrowed from
equally sick and perverted media channel and you are so proud to use it. it
is distasteful to engage in any kind of dialogue with you or your kinds,
that's what i have realised in the last couple of day when this reader's
list was flooded with arguments which were forced laced with an advice:
"think over it", "come out of your illusion".

i have just one thing to say: the law and the constitution, which the
greatest asset of the nation, will be nemesis for those take the citizens
for granted. it was proven with Maya Kodnani's arrest. you cannot doubt it.

with regards,
anupam

On 4/1/09, Pawan Durani <pawan.durani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Rakesh ,
>
> When Mr Ray equates himself with " secular,democratic and progressive
> sections of me society.".....that makes me laugh .
>
> And laughing is no easy thing to do in this age of recession.
>
> Mr Ray has to look in his own backyard and come clean on the Communist
> association with Madani ,who allegedly plotted to kill Advani.
>
> Is Madani not communal or does a Muslim communal gets conerted to a secular
> ,democratic and progressive man ?
>
> Come out of this 'sickularism'.....
>
> Pawan
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Pawan
> >
> > What kind of context are you talking about? And if any context is fit
> > enough to justify killings, then can you tell me why do you think Babur
> is
> > wrong, for after all he was only trying to bring about the Mughal rule in
> > India, and who knows whether he actually believed in what he wrote or it
> was
> > only a gimmick to ensure that the Muslim clergy was satisfied?
> >
> > Even assuming he believed in it, he wanted to establish 'Islamic' rule.
> So
> > he destroyed and looted temples. Do you mean to say this context
> justifies
> > these killings? And hence the BJP's context of destroying masjids and
> mazars
> > is justified?
> >
> > As for the JNU, it has been by and large a leftist university. What is
> the
> > problem with that? After all, before talking of the 'low standards' of
> the
> > JNU, go and read history in the numerous 'Saraswati Shishu Mandir'
> schools
> > run by RSS across the country, and you would be ashamed. After reading
> that
> > history, Khushwant Singh had once commented that even the British would
> be
> > surprised that it has more communalizing content than that taught in
> history
> > under the British rule in India to practise 'divide and rule'.
> >
> > I have problems with the leftist violence unleashed in the name of Maoism
> > as well as with their economic policies somewhat. But does that mean we
> go
> > on ridiculing them? And if yes, it is better to first ridicule the BJP
> and
> > their Sangh Parivar, which will destroy the very foundations on which the
> > Indian state and Indian democracy were established.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rakesh
> >
> >
> >
> _________________________________________
> reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.
> Critiques & Collaborations
> To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with
> subscribe in the subject header.
> To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list
> List archive: &lt;https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>