[Reader-list] RE: (Imagi)nation without the Muslims?‏

Lalit Ambardar lalitambardar at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 26 17:38:15 IST 2009


This weird idea of ‘India belonging to some particular regions only’ could emanate only from a ‘sick mindset’ with a propensity to ‘invent’ divisiveness even in a piece of fiction like a song in a feature film that in the first place never claimed to represent history.
 
Any comment that is contrary to this absurd ‘research’ does not suggest support for banning of films---correct yourselves on that.
 
And it smacks of arrogance to flaunt ones address on the forum, only to claim authority on the subject ‘film /media theory’. In any case, here the discourse is not about academic qualifications or foreign universities.
 
Yes, there certainly remains a lot more to be done on the academic curricula especially at the school level to include legends about national heroes from all parts of the country.
Regards all
LA
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:31:22 +0530Subject: Re: [Reader-list] (Imagi)nation without the Muslims?From: navayana at gmail.comTo: explore at prashant.caCC: lalitambardar at hotmail.com; reader-list at sarai.net; prabhatkumar250 at gmail.comDear PrashantLalit Ambardar would of course believe that "India" belongs to central/north Indian heroes. And Manoj Kumar is justified in infusing non-existent colours (red!) into the flag. Lalit could perhaps write a nice post on who this Hari Singh Nalava is; and also do us a post on Veerpandia Kattabomman who does not figure in the song. While at it, he can also tell us about Samakka-Sarakka. And yes, this forum has  a good share of "lay" fools who would just provoke you by their ignorance. So relax.However, the person who responded to you regarding the absence of Muslims and your not even mentioning this, is I think making a right point and you must take it in the right spirit. Prabhat Kumar is not saying that Muslims are NOT subaltern; he is only pointing to the fact that you could have, in a few lines, noted the fact that not even one Muslim icon is mentioned in the Bharat Kumar song.Anand
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Prashant Kadam <explore at prashant.ca> wrote:
And what is perhaps more preposterous is it took 32 years for somebodyto at least talk about such misrepresentations. And yes this is notthe only song played on the national days, there are a dozen othersand most have followed the same rhetoric of excluding the marginalized.Just because Manoj Kumar made "legendary films" does not qualify him(or for that matter anybody) for exemption from critical scrutiny. Twowrongs don't make a right.No questions of "certification" or "banning the film" were addressedin my article, unless you are imagining things.It is not surprising to read such "lay" comments, people who have nosense of film/media theory are bound to make such errors. If you can,at least try to write some constructive criticism the next time youwrite or is it too much to ask for?Talking of banning films, try finding out who tried to ban and ransacktheaters when Fire, Fanaa etc. were released.PrashantOn 25-Jan-09, at 4:36 PM, Lalit Ambardar wrote:>> Now the lyricists & film makers too would need to get  certification> from.......????.....>> It is after all a song only & not a saga.And this is not the only> song that is played on the national days.> Thirty two years after it was written,casting aspirations now at the> film maker who has also given us "Shaheed" about the legendry Baghat> Singh & 'bharat ka rehne wala hun ,Bharat ki baat sunata hun'(Purab> Pashchim) is preposterous.> Thank God , the villian in the film is a Hindu only otherwise who> knows there could well have been a campaign to seek a ban on the> movie itself .> Regards all> LA> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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