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[anupam chakravartty]

Dear Rakesh,

Which scripture says that religions are political? Then if religions are
political, why is it the supreme end is with something that one hsnt seen or
recorded as something called God. all this politics and everything in the
name of entity which we havent seen. who decides what god wants?

I made that statement in jest Rakesh. Actually i was watching an Iranian
film in which a farmer was asked why he did not vote? very prompty the
farmer replied his interviewer, since Allah is not contesting and he is a
believer of Allah, he doesnt want to vote for any of them.

I am just trying to point out that why these bunch of clerics, maulvis,
pandits, priests have to be taken into consideration. i find it completely
ridiculous. is it possible for them to shed their religiousity and speak for
what they want? tell me Rakesh. i have no idea, what religions gave to the
world except for some literature and self help manual. religion in public
discourse has been a failure. from St Aquinas to Shankaracharya, all their
arguments have been refuted, proved otherwise. so why this very idea of god
and religion have to exist in order for a human being to attain or to find a
purpose in life? what happened to our personal gods?

On 7/10/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> While Baba Ramdev and his comrades (or brothers in his mission) are free to
> propagate their views as to why homosexualiy is unnatural, and so too have
> some on this forum, but when something has to be legalized, we must look at
> the founding fathers of our Constitution and the values which they had
> invested in while forming it. Those should be the ideals upon which our
> Constitution must be based, not the religious texts of the Hindus, the
> Muslims or the Christians.
>
> It is by the very same argument that Article 377 is being sought to be
> nullified. And more importantly, the govt. doesn't have any right to enter
> the bedrooms and find what two people are doing, unless of course one of
> them has a problem with it. And who has the right to decide what is natural?
>
> God? Humans? Baba Ramdev? Raja Ram Mohun Roy?
>
> @ Anupam jee: Religion by definition involves politics, and elections also
> involve politics, so the two can be linked in some way or the other. And
> politics can be democratic, so also religion. Therefore, religion can be a
> part of democratic society. Religious leaders are expressing their views and
> must have the right to do so. And of course, we have the right to disagree.
>
> The first problem with the current crop of religious leaders is that, they
> are not an outcome of democratic politics, but just self-declared leaders
> who have no following. Of course, they also don't have a proper knowledge of
> the texts of the faithful. And such politics will always involve deceit and
> cheating.
>
> Regards
>
> Rakesh
>
>