[Reader-list] "The demise of Pakistan is inevitable"

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Wed Jun 17 17:26:52 IST 2009


Dear Kshmendra,

A lot of innocent or common people who donate funds to the temples are being
used to train bajrang dal activists across the country. it is a well
documented fact.

-thanks anupam



On 6/17/09, Kshmendra Kaul <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Rakesh
>
> You wrote : "I don't feel that the Pakistani common people have any
> interest in training people to conduct terror blasts in India, but many
> sections of the Pakistani elite and the Pakistani army are involved in this,
> and we need to seriously look into this."
>
> I would suggest that you are not fully aware of the dynamics in Pakistan.
> Many "common people" in Pakistan fund, support and participate in the
> hate-agendas against India of which "terror blasts in India" is one outcome.
>
> Kshmendra
>
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Rakesh Iyer <rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Reader-list] "The demise of Pakistan is inevitable"
> To: "Kshmendra Kaul" <kshmendra2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "sarai list" <reader-list at sarai.net>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 3:12 PM
>
>
> Dear Kshamendra
>
> Pakistan, in a sense is already fractured. We are in a situation now, where
> there is no idea about whom India can talk to and trust, and who it can't.
> We have Zardari, Gilani and Kayani, the state actors (or those who are
> acting, as done in films, for the Pakistani state on the world stage) who
> always want to get more funds to actually buy weapon systems against
> Pakistan, in the name of fighting terrorism on their western border and
> blackmail other nations that their nation won't survive.
>
> At the same time, we have non-state actors, who are directly or indirectly
> supported by the state actors, who create problems of different kind and
> blasts like Mumbai 26/11 or others. And these non-state actors create
> problems for their own people too sometimes, like Peshawar blasts and Lal
> Masjid incident.
>
> The triple conundrum of terrorism in India, which we in India have been
> suffering from, has one of the problems as the Pakistani state. I don't feel
> that the Pakistani common people have any interest in training people to
> conduct terror blasts in India, but many sections of the Pakistani elite and
> the Pakistani army are involved in this, and we need to seriously look into
> this. Through diplomatic pressure or other means, it's time for not only
> India, but the entire world to look into this. This world, as it is, is
> already suffering from so many problems. We should concentrate on such
> problems rather than fighting another problem by creating it.
>
> Hence, the Pakistani state should be told in stricter terms that no
> financial aid would be provided to them, and only help through the Red Cross
> or the UNICEF or other humanitarian aid would be provided. Equally, it's the
> responsibility of all, including the USA, to stop giving such military
> equipment, which only fuels further anger against the US in the minds of the
> common people and encourages them to join the Taliban. Instead, we should go
> for a different strategy and start talking with those who actually don't
> want violence. Most of those who are joining Taliban, I don't feel, are
> interested in making Islam the supreme religion. Their concern is simply
> that innocents are getting killed in such wars, and therefore we need to
> separate such people from the hoodlums and the elite among the Taliban who
> set useless agendas.
>
> Even if my suggestion is too much, at least the current stream of US action
> is not going to help, and it is imperative that we change the course.
> Otherwise, Obama would have still gone the same course as Bush did, and 4
> years from now, people would realize that Obama never brought the change he
> was supposed to.
>
> And if Pakistan actually states that the Taliban will win, then somebody
> has to take the courage to call Pakistan's bluff. Because as I see it, the
> Taliban and the Pakistani state will continue to co-exist, irrespective of
> whatever others want to say about it. The elites in both have set the
> agendas, and they won't move away from each other.
>
> Regards
>
> Rakesh
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________
> reader-list: an open discussion list on media and the city.
> Critiques & Collaborations
> To subscribe: send an email to reader-list-request at sarai.net with
> subscribe in the subject header.
> To unsubscribe: https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list
> List archive: <https://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/reader-list/>


More information about the reader-list mailing list