[Reader-list] Your views on the book "Satya Darshini" by christian missionaries

[anupam chakravartty]

I am glad you are pointing this out..sex as a tool for conversion. infact
Asaram Bapu cult, Ashok Jadeja are stalwarts.

Will keep updating your list Murali, stay assured.
-anupam


On 8/31/09, Murali V <murali.chalam at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As regards conversions, I can give a whole list of documentation where
> seduction is the main method.
>
> Regards,
> V Murali
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Rakesh Iyer<rakesh.rnbdj at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Murali
> >
> > I may counter this point, to a certain extent. The idea of monotheism in
> God
> > was basically an articulation of the elitist position, which the priests
> and
> > those considered 'respectful' as per religious tradition, being elders.
> What
> > the people followed in their lives may not be necessarily the same as
> that
> > which was observed by the elites.
> >
> > Secondly, it was under the British rule that Sanskrit and religious texts
> > were studied back for research into Indian philosophy (this was done even
> > under Mughal rule but the Mughals didn't distinguish themselves
> necessarily
> > from the natives of the land), it was then that certain reformers like
> Ram
> > Mohan Roy, Vidyasagar, Vivekananda and others realized the need to reform
> > their religion, for being western-educated and seeing what they thought
> were
> > 'ills' in the society, they couldn't bear to see the real instances of
> sati
> > and other kinds of discrimination, as well as polytheism.
> >
> > In order to give a 'modernist' look in the religion, they decided to
> adapt
> > the theme of monotheism. While Roy advocated that people should only
> worship
> > one God, Vivekananda said what you have put as the main point in your
> mail.
> > However, as I have said, Vivekananda and Roy are not the only Hindus.
> Each
> > person has got the right to interpret and decide for himself/herself what
> it
> > means to be a Hindu, and the same freedom does and should exist for what
> it
> > means to be a Christian or a Muslim. Unnecessary constraints being
> invented
> > or developed by society is not the right path to define these identities.
> >
> > I think we have also diverted significantly in measure from the subject
> > under which I am writing this mail. The topic basically deals with
> regarding
> > whether such texts should be published at all, and why aren't they being
> > criticized.
> >
> > The texts shouldn't be banned, so also Varun Gandhi's and Modi's speeches
> > (vitriolic as they have been in different contexts). Each person has got
> the
> > right to express his/her view, and even as a citizen of the Indian state,
> > it's no obligation on a citizen who is a non-Muslim, to trust a Muslim.
> That
> > is an individual freedom and therefore, views expressed in accordance
> with
> > that are fine.
> >
> > The larger problem of conversions has two other aspects to look at. First
> is
> > how come these conversions are taking place, and secondly, as to why
> these
> > conversions are taking place. If somebody wants, please take up research
> on
> > it. But don't just blame missionaries for conversion, for if I don't wish
> to
> > convert, how come a Christian missionary or a Muslim mulla can convert me
> > against my own will?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rakesh
> >
>