[Reader-list] AMAN KI AASHA

anupam chakravartty c.anupam at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 15:00:57 IST 2010


Dear Aditya,

It is unfortunate that you did not bother to follow an important news
that you had posted on this list. Very patiently I had read it and
pointed out some contradictions which you have not been able to
confirm. I am afraid I had to point out these facts because you cannot
say things like: '"trash' might just be of 'value' to someone else on
the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to ignore and not devalue
someone's contribution to the list by calling it names." I am sorry I
cannot follow your direction on choosing to ignore trash if you or
anyone posts it on this list.

-Anupam

On 2/18/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> Something Shri Shuddhabrata Sengupta calls 'trash' might just be of 'value'
> to someone else on the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to ignore and
> not devalue someone's contribution to the list by calling it names.
>
> I hope the words you preach gives you the patience to take criticism
> yourself which unfortunately you haven't been able to do.
>
> We are open to discussion, debate and criticism. But, how can we move ahead
> ignoring the basic courtesy of 'freedom of one's opinion'. Or is it
> 'liberty' just for the moderators and not members of this forum.
>
> If the moderators only want their viewpoints to be followed, let them enjoy
> and also please let me know so that I can back out and let one opinion flow
> in the network.
>
> regards
>
> Aditya Raj Kaul
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:
>
>> Dear Rakesh,
>>
>> Of course the poem is trash. And of course any person with a taste for
>> trash has the right to send trash on to the list. I am not at all
>> disputing
>> the right of any person to subject us to garbage. And of course we should
>> read such things patiently. I always do.
>>
>> But, the right to send trash on to the list comes with the corresponding
>> obligation to be prepared to be criticised for having done so. That is the
>> responsibility that comes with practising the freedom of speech.  I am
>> always open to be criticised on this list, provided the criticism is not
>> defamatory or libel. I hope everyone else is as well.
>>
>> best
>>
>> Shuddha
>>
>>
>> On 17-Feb-10, at 5:29 PM, Rakesh Iyer wrote:
>>
>> The poem is a complete trash as it completely refuses to understand that
>> all
>> Pakistanis are not of one kind and can't be brought under a single
>> umbrella
>> of being those who are responsible for perpetrating terrorism. At the same
>> time, we should be prepared and have the patience to read and hear such
>> comments. Infact, it's not our mistake. Long back, when India had chosen
>> the
>> path to be democratic, Nehru had said that India is for all. The end
>> result
>> is there for all to see. It's for all kinds of religious fundamentalists
>> and
>> secular humanity-oriented people who are against each other. We are a
>> nation
>> of extremes and variations. So nothing wrong in writing such poems from
>> the
>> freedom of speech point of view.
>>
>> But yes, the poem is a trash in terms of it's content, objectively.
>>
>> Rakesh
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