[Reader-list] AMAN KI AASHA

[anupam chakravartty]

Dear Aditya,

I understand you are not spokesperson for PTI. I do not think PTI
would have been really pleased with you for posting a developing
story. More so, because I searched through PTI archives today as well,
I have not found the input that was posted by you. So if you could
kindly cooperate and state your sources here it would be very helpful.

And I have stated why I doubt the claims made the news report in my
reply to Kshmendra's mail. Would definitely look forward to your reply
Aditya. I thank you again for sharing this with us. It speaks a lot
about the kind of news coming out of the valley.

Thanks
Anupam

On 2/18/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Anupam,
>
> I am not a spokesperson of Press Trust of India (PTI). Does that answer your
> questions?
>
> I shared an important news item with the list; because I didn't want it to
> be missed. How can you say I didn't follow the news; when it is me who
> shared it will the members here on Sarai!?!
>
> I think someone already has clarified your misconception or 'contradiction'
> as you say. I don't think every time I am required to guide you.
>
> While you choose to not ignore 'trash'; you should as well refrain from
> spreading the same 'trash' and not waste our valuable time in useless
> discussion.
>
> thanks
>
> Aditya Raj Kaul
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM, anupam chakravartty
> <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Aditya,
>>
>> It is unfortunate that you did not bother to follow an important news
>> that you had posted on this list. Very patiently I had read it and
>> pointed out some contradictions which you have not been able to
>> confirm. I am afraid I had to point out these facts because you cannot
>> say things like: '"trash' might just be of 'value' to someone else on
>> the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to ignore and not devalue
>> someone's contribution to the list by calling it names." I am sorry I
>> cannot follow your direction on choosing to ignore trash if you or
>> anyone posts it on this list.
>>
>> -Anupam
>>
>> On 2/18/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Friends
>> >
>> > Something Shri Shuddhabrata Sengupta calls 'trash' might just be of
>> 'value'
>> > to someone else on the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to ignore
>> and
>> > not devalue someone's contribution to the list by calling it names.
>> >
>> > I hope the words you preach gives you the patience to take criticism
>> > yourself which unfortunately you haven't been able to do.
>> >
>> > We are open to discussion, debate and criticism. But, how can we move
>> ahead
>> > ignoring the basic courtesy of 'freedom of one's opinion'. Or is it
>> > 'liberty' just for the moderators and not members of this forum.
>> >
>> > If the moderators only want their viewpoints to be followed, let them
>> enjoy
>> > and also please let me know so that I can back out and let one opinion
>> flow
>> > in the network.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Aditya Raj Kaul
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta
>> > <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Rakesh,
>> >>
>> >> Of course the poem is trash. And of course any person with a taste for
>> >> trash has the right to send trash on to the list. I am not at all
>> >> disputing
>> >> the right of any person to subject us to garbage. And of course we
>> should
>> >> read such things patiently. I always do.
>> >>
>> >> But, the right to send trash on to the list comes with the
>> >> corresponding
>> >> obligation to be prepared to be criticised for having done so. That is
>> the
>> >> responsibility that comes with practising the freedom of speech.  I am
>> >> always open to be criticised on this list, provided the criticism is
>> >> not
>> >> defamatory or libel. I hope everyone else is as well.
>> >>
>> >> best
>> >>
>> >> Shuddha
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 17-Feb-10, at 5:29 PM, Rakesh Iyer wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The poem is a complete trash as it completely refuses to understand
>> >> that
>> >> all
>> >> Pakistanis are not of one kind and can't be brought under a single
>> >> umbrella
>> >> of being those who are responsible for perpetrating terrorism. At the
>> same
>> >> time, we should be prepared and have the patience to read and hear such
>> >> comments. Infact, it's not our mistake. Long back, when India had
>> >> chosen
>> >> the
>> >> path to be democratic, Nehru had said that India is for all. The end
>> >> result
>> >> is there for all to see. It's for all kinds of religious
>> >> fundamentalists
>> >> and
>> >> secular humanity-oriented people who are against each other. We are a
>> >> nation
>> >> of extremes and variations. So nothing wrong in writing such poems from
>> >> the
>> >> freedom of speech point of view.
>> >>
>> >> But yes, the poem is a trash in terms of it's content, objectively.
>> >>
>> >> Rakesh
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> > Freelance Writer
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