[Reader-list] AMAN KI AASHA

Aditya Raj Kaul kauladityaraj at gmail.com
Thu Feb 18 16:21:51 IST 2010 

Dear Anupam

The first two lines of your recent e-mail on the list read as follows -
*
"I am sorry if you are visually impaired. I did not know this. I wish I
had a software by which I could read out the news report in question."*

I didn't find it worth enough to read the e-mail further. The above lines
unfortunately are applicable on your good self. I share with you the link -

http://www.ptinews.com/news/521987_Militants-attack-cop-post-near-Srinagar--loot-weapons

I don't doubt the news report. So I rest my case.

thanks

Aditya Raj Kaul

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:13 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Aditya,
>
> I understand you are not spokesperson for PTI. I do not think PTI
> would have been really pleased with you for posting a developing
> story. More so, because I searched through PTI archives today as well,
> I have not found the input that was posted by you. So if you could
> kindly cooperate and state your sources here it would be very helpful.
>
> And I have stated why I doubt the claims made the news report in my
> reply to Kshmendra's mail. Would definitely look forward to your reply
> Aditya. I thank you again for sharing this with us. It speaks a lot
> about the kind of news coming out of the valley.
>
> Thanks
> Anupam
>
> On 2/18/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Anupam,
> >
> > I am not a spokesperson of Press Trust of India (PTI). Does that answer
> your
> > questions?
> >
> > I shared an important news item with the list; because I didn't want it
> to
> > be missed. How can you say I didn't follow the news; when it is me who
> > shared it will the members here on Sarai!?!
> >
> > I think someone already has clarified your misconception or
> 'contradiction'
> > as you say. I don't think every time I am required to guide you.
> >
> > While you choose to not ignore 'trash'; you should as well refrain from
> > spreading the same 'trash' and not waste our valuable time in useless
> > discussion.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Aditya Raj Kaul
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM, anupam chakravartty
> > <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Aditya,
> >>
> >> It is unfortunate that you did not bother to follow an important news
> >> that you had posted on this list. Very patiently I had read it and
> >> pointed out some contradictions which you have not been able to
> >> confirm. I am afraid I had to point out these facts because you cannot
> >> say things like: '"trash' might just be of 'value' to someone else on
> >> the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to ignore and not devalue
> >> someone's contribution to the list by calling it names." I am sorry I
> >> cannot follow your direction on choosing to ignore trash if you or
> >> anyone posts it on this list.
> >>
> >> -Anupam
> >>
> >> On 2/18/10, Aditya Raj Kaul <kauladityaraj at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Dear Friends
> >> >
> >> > Something Shri Shuddhabrata Sengupta calls 'trash' might just be of
> >> 'value'
> >> > to someone else on the list. Even if it isn't, you can choose to
> ignore
> >> and
> >> > not devalue someone's contribution to the list by calling it names.
> >> >
> >> > I hope the words you preach gives you the patience to take criticism
> >> > yourself which unfortunately you haven't been able to do.
> >> >
> >> > We are open to discussion, debate and criticism. But, how can we move
> >> ahead
> >> > ignoring the basic courtesy of 'freedom of one's opinion'. Or is it
> >> > 'liberty' just for the moderators and not members of this forum.
> >> >
> >> > If the moderators only want their viewpoints to be followed, let them
> >> enjoy
> >> > and also please let me know so that I can back out and let one opinion
> >> flow
> >> > in the network.
> >> >
> >> > regards
> >> >
> >> > Aditya Raj Kaul
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> >> > <shuddha at sarai.net>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Dear Rakesh,
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course the poem is trash. And of course any person with a taste
> for
> >> >> trash has the right to send trash on to the list. I am not at all
> >> >> disputing
> >> >> the right of any person to subject us to garbage. And of course we
> >> should
> >> >> read such things patiently. I always do.
> >> >>
> >> >> But, the right to send trash on to the list comes with the
> >> >> corresponding
> >> >> obligation to be prepared to be criticised for having done so. That
> is
> >> the
> >> >> responsibility that comes with practising the freedom of speech.  I
> am
> >> >> always open to be criticised on this list, provided the criticism is
> >> >> not
> >> >> defamatory or libel. I hope everyone else is as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> best
> >> >>
> >> >> Shuddha
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 17-Feb-10, at 5:29 PM, Rakesh Iyer wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The poem is a complete trash as it completely refuses to understand
> >> >> that
> >> >> all
> >> >> Pakistanis are not of one kind and can't be brought under a single
> >> >> umbrella
> >> >> of being those who are responsible for perpetrating terrorism. At the
> >> same
> >> >> time, we should be prepared and have the patience to read and hear
> such
> >> >> comments. Infact, it's not our mistake. Long back, when India had
> >> >> chosen
> >> >> the
> >> >> path to be democratic, Nehru had said that India is for all. The end
> >> >> result
> >> >> is there for all to see. It's for all kinds of religious
> >> >> fundamentalists
> >> >> and
> >> >> secular humanity-oriented people who are against each other. We are a
> >> >> nation
> >> >> of extremes and variations. So nothing wrong in writing such poems
> from
> >> >> the
> >> >> freedom of speech point of view.
> >> >>
> >> >> But yes, the poem is a trash in terms of it's content, objectively.
> >> >>
> >> >> Rakesh
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> >> >> Shuddhabrata Sengupta
> >> >> The Sarai Programme at CSDS
> >> >> Raqs Media Collective
> >> >> shuddha at sarai.net
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Aditya Raj Kaul
> >> >
> >> > Freelance Writer
> >> > Blog: http://activistsdiary.blogspot.com/
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> >
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Aditya Raj Kaul

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