[Reader-list] I LOVE GUJARAT

Mon Jun 14 21:23:18 IST 2010

Hi, all,
it is truely amazing when the participants in the list when revert to talk
or express about narendra Modi, they NORMALLY seem to see only devil,
progrom and genocide and the BJP as the communal party. !
For me whenever i see the death and devastation it is the death of lives,
humans, irrespective of the faith they followed when alive, but
consistently, the broad band of seculars, leftists and hangers on of power
politics and Congress seems to be party of angels.........?
When 30,000 people died at the man made tragedy, at Bhopal, Chief Minister
arranging safe passage for the criminal abetting his crime of this tragedy,
the death of so many humans, pollution of air, water and livelihood of
miseries for the survivors is again not seen as genocide of humans. ? Is it
because indian citizen and his life is cheapest because the population is
billions., ! After the assasination of indira priyadarshini, when the
leaders led from the front, to kill, maim, burn 3000 in just three days, it
was again not genocide.?
But when any talk of modi, and gujarath, of the two thousand dead and
injured, all humans, the death of "muslims" as they rioted, is genocide.?And
those who died of bullet injuries and burning of the train coach is just
death.! Shame on such intellectual discourse of the corrupt minds who do not
recognise the goons in society with congress banner, selling the human life
in thousands, killing in thousands for vote bank politics, Congress is party
of angels, my foot.!
And this list which is surviving by praise and selective bashing, for the
grant and aid it recieves from the powers that be, is the proof of the
hypocratic society that is India.!
love and regards,
rajen.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:43 PM, anupam chakravartty <c.anupam at gmail.com>wrote:

> Bipin,
>
> He hasn't said anything new apart from praising sushil modi, which he is
> bound to, and then making that statement that Gujarat is thankful for the
> relief provided during Earthquake. Bipin, I understand your position very
> clearly even though you have denied several times that you do not have any
> kind of political bias. I think i would defend your position as well
> because
> everyone has the right to assert their opinions. However, Modi's ( I am not
> saying BJP now but very exclusively) stand point as I learn from you, to
> become a pillar against congress and its policies turns him into a subset
> of
> the Congress party. This i am saying from what you and several others have
> accused Congress party for:
>
> 1. On many occasions, you have accused Congress for minority appeasement.
> So, can we not say that the billboards about Gujarat government and how
> Muslims are faring well in Gujarat publicised in Bihar are nothing but
> blatant examples of minority appeasement (at least for electoral outcomes)
>
> 2. Today, Modi made a statement in the news media calling Sonia Gandhi as a
> "maut ka saudagar", as she is the party chairman/president and she is being
> quiet about Bhopal. the charge is understandable (although misplaced) in
> the
> context of the recent exchanges  between finance ministry, ministry of
> external affairs and DOW chemicals, which bought, Union Carbide ( minus the
> legal liabilities, as claimed by the DOW officials, which is still
> undecided
> in the court of law). however, Modi calling sonia gandhi maut ka saudagar
> in
> this context (for Bhopal tragedy) is misplaced because Gujarat Alkalies and
> Chemical Limited invited Dow Chemicals to invest Rs 600 crores in a joint
> venture. the unit situated in Dahej, about 50 kilometers from CPCB labelled
> critically polluted Ankleshwar, which will be producing Phenol, Acetone,
> Propylene oxide and expansion of an already existing Hydrogen Peroxide
> plant. The production is going to begin from Jan 2012.
>
> 3. former union minister for state and tribals, Faggan Singh Kulaste MP
> from
> Mandla constituency (for some details of his background, click
> this<
> http://www.indiarightsonline.com/Sabrang/india7.nsf/38b852a8345861dd65256a980059289d/4f77e389a15d0101652570de007d9496?OpenDocument
> >)
> who is now a member of BJP's adivasi morcha was seen in Vadodara along with
> the Gujarat tribal and forest minister, Mangu Patel, telling press
> reporters
> that Gujarat government has not done enough in the implementation of the
> Forest Rights Act. Then, he went on to praise Vanbandhu Kalyan Yojana of
> the
> Gujarat government. and then he also criticised gujarat and the central
> government for picking up innocent persons as naxals. a good number of
> people could not figure out what his position was. he went on talking about
> alienation of the indigenous communities, then he spoke of church and
> maoism
> are two things eating away their cultural capital. he was addressing a
> meeting of leaders from Guj and Rajasthan to discuss the plans of Adivasi
> Morcha. now if you see the contradictions in his statement, i strongly feel
> that there is some desperation not just with Modi but generally with former
> leaders of BJP to make absurd statements and then get away with them. and
> you there, Bipin, going on and on about how you love Gujarat. how people
> are
> tarnishing Gujarat. nobody is, people are critical about the administration
> of Mr Modi and his billboard gimmickry.
>
> It is from here that i conclude that neither you, nor Narendra Modi, nor
> Govardhan Zadaphia or even the existing political leaders of Congress, can
> truly speak of Gujaratis nor you have any understanding about the issues in
> Gujarat. all that you have got is claims for a tv advertisement about
> Gujarat. trust me, only a certain class of affluent Gujaratis enjoy such
> visual culture, rest barely have means to make their ends meet.
>
> Thanks
>
> Anupam
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in> wrote:
>
> >  In his rally speech at patna please listen the speech fully than argue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* anupam chakravartty [mailto:c.anupam at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2010 10:21 AM
> > *To:* Bipin Trivedi; sarai list
> > *Subject:* Re: [Reader-list] I LOVE GUJARAT
> >
> >
> >
> > Precisely, when did Modi administration thank Bihar government for
> > providing funds during earthquake? Could you please enlighten us Bipin
> > Trivedi.
> >
> > thanks anupam
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Bipin Trivedi <aliens at dataone.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > Announcement of Kosi fund allotment was noticed immediately and
> criticized
> > without any delay, but announcement of thanking Bihar people for earth
> > quake
> > relief fund not noticed even.
> >
> > Since Nitishkumar told earlier to sent back the unused relief fund
> received
> > from Gujarat, Modi mention that Kosi fund topic in the speech. If
> > Nitishkumar not told that in public it would have not been there in the
> > speech. Since there is malicious propaganda from some people against
> > Gujarat
> > and Modi, one has to take extra effort by way banner publicity and what
> is
> > wrong with it. Anywhere before election, banners/photo by way of ad used
> by
> > all the political parties. So, they are preparing for election coming in
> > Bihar well in advance, what is the problem with it.
> >
> > I am not here for getting any RATNA, but I love Gujarat along with India
> > and
> > so I am keeping my honest real views and giving my extra effort to revert
> > so
> > called tarnished image of Gujarat created with false propaganda.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bipin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Rajen.